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Date:         Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:16:04 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Refrigerant controversey
Comments: To: Chuck Hill <hilltech@NETINS.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <3EF11E05.7A8A3FF3@netins.net>
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At 10:20 PM 6/18/2003, Chuck Hill wrote: >tank under our Westy, and I've never heard of a problem with that. Yes, >of course there should be a surge valve to shut off the flow if the >regulator gets knocked clean off the tank, but there's not.

If there's not then you're not set up right. The POL spud connecting the service valve to the regulator must be of the excess-flow-prevention type for RV use. Granted, if the valve itself gets knocked off it doesn't have a second valve inside the tank. The tanks themselves are a great deal stronger and better protected than air conditioning gear, and the lines running into the cabin are at extremely low pressure.

> Something >more to worry about. I've carried a few bottles of LP for the Coleman >stove and lantern, really more than would charge the AC, without a >disaster.

And I've heard at least two accounts of people having those containers vent inside a vehicle with no harm done. I've personally suffered a butane accident from a Bic-brand lighter that caused no harm at all. What happened was that I was standing (in a pasture on the farm my folks used to own in Weld ME, where we were camping) a few feet from my then girlfriend, and I tossed her the lighter. She fumbled it and it fell -- oh, easily two feet and landed on the windscreen flap of the Coleman camp stove that was between us. It split lengthwise and the gas escaped so quickly we barely heard a hiss. It was cool damp weather and the two of us stood staring at the roughly spherical cloud that suddenly filled the space between us, including the stove, and slowly drifted away. Did I mention that the stove wasn't lit? I was giving her the lighter so she could light it. The lighter (afterwards) had a barely visible crack down one side, you had to know it was there to find it.

I honestly don't think I'd be here now if that stove had been lit. Wasn't anybody else within 2-3 miles, everything was damp...if it set the field on fire someone would have noticed sooner or later.

david

-- David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation"


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