Date:         Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:58:27 -0400
Reply-To:     John Meeks <jmeeks@GASLIGHTMEDIA.COM>
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From:         John Meeks <jmeeks@GASLIGHTMEDIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Alternate fuel
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"You can still only get as much energy out as you put in"

Think about the IN part of that equation. Megawatts of solar energy. Seems
pretty efficient to me! Fuel cell powered compressors for the Hydrogen.

While on the subject, Thermal Depolymerization looks pretty interesting.
http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html
http://www.changingworldtech.com/home.html

Best Regards,
John Meeks
'91 MultiWest

-----Original Message-----
From: David Brodbeck [mailto:gull@gull.us]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:30 PM
To: John Meeks
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: RE: Alternate fuel.


On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, John Meeks wrote:

> I think you missed Rosebud's brilliant point about using the DC current
from
> solar panels to electrolize water into Hydrogen and Oxygen which could be
> stored/transported and used in fuel cells.

You can still only get as much energy out as you put in...actually, less,
because even electrolysis isn't 100% efficient.  Especially if you have to
compress the hydrogen for transport when you're done.

David Brodbeck, N8SRE
'82 Diesel Westfalia
'94 Honda Civic Si