Date:         Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:03:36 -0600
Reply-To:     Andrew Fox <afox@CNR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Andrew Fox <afox@CNR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: SUV Bashing)  was Think Positive to start your new year
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> After these comment I suggest you go find a Chevy / Dodge / Ford (orother)
> list.  Obviously you do not belong on this one.

Easy there.  Its good to take a look at reality every once in a while,
otherwise we forget the real reasons we own vanagons.  Yes our vehicles
suck mechanically and there are better vans out there but we continue to
put up with the crap because we love vw's.  Stan's right about everything
he said especially the part that it really really sucks if your only
vehicle is a vanagon.  Vanagons are a hobbyist car not a reliable,
practical form of trasportation.

Andrew Fox
86 Westy
87 Westy
98 Ford E-150 Cargo Van


On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Eric Zeno wrote:

> After these comment I suggest you go find a Chevy / Dodge / Ford (or other)
> list.   Obviously you do not belong on this one.
>                                                                   Eric
>
>
> Stan Wilder wrote:
>
> >That is exactly as I figured ................... good as a Chevy Van with
> >a futon rolled in the back.
> >Except that with the Chevy / Dodge / Ford (or other) you can take your
> >boat, tow a spare car, tow a travel trailer, run the air conditioner when
> >you're going up hills and fighting head winds and still get better gas
> >mileage. Also with a Chevy / Dodge / Ford you can buy, sell, tow dead
> >Vanagons back home with you.
> >The last time I hauled five people and all our gear on a weekend camp out
> >I nearly broke my leg when we were going up hill and I opened the door
> >and stepped out because everybody on the highway was flying past me like
> >I was stopped. I wasn't sure we were still moving.
> >My condolences to anyone that drives a Vanagon of any year for their only
> >source of transportation.
> >LOL!
> >Nobody ever wants to make the Vanagon again or any thing close to it.
> >
> >Stan Wilder
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:04:33 -0700 mark drillock <drillock@earthlink.net>
> >writes:
> >
> >
> >>Vanagon GLs sleep 2 in comfort with room for stuff. With the bed
> >>down,
> >>4'x8' building materials can be carried. With the center seat out,
> >>massive amounts of additional stuff can be carried while either of
> >>the
> >>previous 2 scenarios takes place. If you need to transport heavy
> >>items
> >>the floor level is much lower than any other vehicle and makes
> >>loading
> >>and unloading a snap. I have many times transported an engine and
> >>tranny
> >>while still having room for 5 people or the option for 2 to sleep
> >>without removing the heavy items. No other vehicle comes close.
> >>
> >>Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Stan Wilder wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Please elaborate on what you might possibly find potentially
> >>>
> >>>
> >>outstanding
> >>
> >>
> >>>about a seven person hauler Vanagon.
> >>>I know about the features of the Westy, but I'm dead serious
> >>>
> >>>
> >>curious
> >>
> >>
> >>>about anything outstanding about the standard Vanagon.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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