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Date:         Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:41:04 -0400
Reply-To:     Jay Brown <jayb@COEDSPORTSWEAR.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jay Brown <jayb@COEDSPORTSWEAR.COM>
Subject:      Re: moldy poptop cures?
Comments: To: sja_young@YAHOO.COM, haewolius@YAHOO.COM
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Hi Guys,

As Confucius would say, "Why use an axe when a hatchet would work as well?" The mold and mildew that are living in the flocking on your poptop is not really that tough to get rid of. The mixture of caustic chemicals you are proposing would be somewhat akin to dropping an atomic bomb in order to light a hibachi for a backyard cookout.

Probably the easiest way to kill everything off would be to use a mild bleach solution. Go for the old-school Clorox stuff, none of the foo-foo new scented stuff. Mix a gallon of warm water with a pint of bleach, grab a sponge and head out to the bus. Obviously eye protection and rubber gloves would be a good idea for this project. Wipe the bleach solution on with the sponge and let it soak in for a few minutes, then blot away any excess with an old towel or something similar. You want to leave the flocking damp, but not soaked.

Let everything dry overnight (use an oscillating fan to help if you have one) and you should see a vast improvement in the condition of your poptop liner in the morning. If there are any particularly stubborn spots, hit them with the 10% bleach solution again and scrub gently with a fingernail brush or an old toothbrush. The sodium hypochlorite in the bleach will kill the mold spores and mildew, and should prevent the problem from coming back for quite a while. To get rid of the stink of the chlorine bleach, you can give your van plenty of time to air out, or you could try a dechlorinator (Sodium Thiosulfate) http://www.chemistrystore.com/sodium_thiosulfate.htm. This chemical is also readily available at any pet store for getting rid of the chlorine in your tapwater. Go for a brand that just dechlorinates, you don't need any aloe vera or vitamin B additives for your Westy. Tap Water Conditoner from Aquarium Systems would probably be a good choice that is available pretty much everywhere. Mix the dechlorinator at about 10 times the recommended dosage for tap water and wipe it all over the poptop flocking. Let it sit for an hour or so and then give it a quick rinse with warm tap water. Then you can start enjoying your camper without all the mold and mildew.

Good Luck! Jay Brown '72 Riviera (formerly very mildewed & moldy) '85 Vanagon Westfalia http://www.geocities.com/vwcamper72

Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:58:51 -0700 From: Steve Young <sja_young@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: moldy poptop cures?

Hi,

Do you mean the mold that can grow on the inside of a roof if the van wasn't properly aired? If so I'm just about to tackle the same problem. Haven't found any good answers yet. A visit to a local auto valet said he could get 40% of the mold off the inside of my roof. His recommendation was put a layer of new fabric over the top. This didn't sound like a healthy solution so I'm looking for something better. The canvas is off my van so I'm going to take off the roof this weekend and set about it with various cleaners and see what can be done.

So far I've heard that Ecover cream cleaner, rubbing alcohol and a TSP solution can all clean mold. One I might resort to if all else fails is:

1 gallon of water 1 tablespoon TSP 1 cup of bleach 4 tablespoons of Lye

Anything with TSP, Lye and or bleach would need to be treated with respect. Rubber gloves, eye protection, no kids, animals, etc. Add chemicals to water rather than vice versa.

I've no idea what impact these could have on my roof fabric so I'll test spot a small areas first. Lots of rinsing afterwards would be essential.

Any more info on mold cleaning would be great.

Steve

Jeffrey Stangeland <haewolius@YAHOO.COM> wrote: hey all-

anybody have a solution for the mold beginning to creep into my poptop roof? mine's still pretty clean but i've seen some roofs when i was looking at vans and they can get pretty nasty looking... peace, jeff


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