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Date:         Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:12:28 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 007 smoke screen / battery light - TROUBLE!
Comments: To: SD Kraning <PopTop88@CHARTER.NET>
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This could be real trouble. When the AC lost power, the alternator and water pump was no longer driven. Without water flow, the temp gauge is almost useless as you no longer have coolant flowing past it. In this state, when the gauge does rise, it is due to steam generation forcing water to flow and building pressure rapidly. Rubber gasket damage, head and case warping, and other nastiness are beginning. The belt fraying may indicate a failed component but since there were no indicating noises, a more likely cause is that the belt was not tensioned properly. Having the AC blowers on high combined with the supporting radiator fan places a tremendous load on the alternator. This will cause a loose or worn belt to slip continuously and eventually burn itself up. This belt has to be tight as it is not a properly designed belt drive. The belt has less than 45 degree wrap on the engine pulley. A proper belt drive should be as close to 180 degree wrap as possible to transmit full torque. What VW was thinking that day I don't know.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of SD Kraning Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:04 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: 007 smoke screen / battery light - TROUBLE!

Hi All-

On my way home from work Friday, I noticed the a/c dropped to about half power (was on high speed) and then my battery light came on. Of course I said the obligatory "Oh SHIT!!" and started looking for a place to pull over. I was on the interstate, so I had to drive another 1/2 mile or so before I could even get to a shoulder. By then, there was white smoke billowing out of both rear vents and the temp guage had started to rise. Oh- and the power steering was out.

Opened the engine compartment up to a big mess of coolant all over and lots of steam. Another "Oh Shit" followed by more cussing. The problem was pretty obvious - a belt was off and frayed pretty badly which connected three pulleys (I think the alternator / ac compressor / and the water pump maybe(??))

Any ideas on what would cause this? I'm thinking that since the belt didn't actually break, one of the components siezed. Not sure which one, but I have a feeling maybe it's the water pump. It was just weird that it happened so fast - no noises or warning signs - just a/c lost some power and the battery light came on :(

thanks,

Scott


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