Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:10:31 -0400
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: AVP Engines
In-Reply-To: <BB342CC1.4EEE%mwmiller@cwnet.com>
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Mike,
If it makes you feel any better my Syncro Westy has used oil from day
one. Depending on use and load, a quart every 1-2K miles. Even with an
oil cooler. It now haw has 204K on it including the original head
gaskets.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller [mailto:mwmiller@cwnet.com]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:59 AM
To: Dennis Haynes; 'vanagon'
Subject: Re: AVP Engines
A quart per 2k in a new engine? And it took 15,000 miles of break in
before
it got to that. Started at a quart every 800 miles.
If you put oil per Bentley it comes to the top mark, I've heard the
other
way but can't buy the reasons given.
Didn't know abut the rings and the rebuilder says he's been using the
same
rings for years.
Oh, well, I'm going to live with it but not happily.
Mike
On 7/11/03 6:34 AM, "Dennis Haynes" <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote:
> 1 quart of oil in 2K miles is no cause for concern. Most 2.1L engines
> use oil. As for the smoke on start up, if the hill is steep enough,
some
> oil will seep past the rings. Make sure you are not overfilling the
> engine. The top mark is not full, it is the maximum allowed ever.
Proper
> level is really 1/2 way between the marks for coolest oil temps. Most
of
> the piston cylinder kits come with a "3 piece" oil ring. These rings
do
> allow more oil use than the older "1 piece" cast rings.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
Behalf
> Of Mike Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:52 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: AVP Engines
>
> Used what oil they recommended. Drove as they recommended for the
break
> in
> period.
>
> AVP is very nice and sound like they know what theyıre doing [even
> according
> to a pro mechanic friend of mine that went with me to pick up the
> engine].
>
> They said that they had heard of rings not seating lately from other
> rebuilders but in their experience itıs only happened one time in
many,
> 20
> or so?, years of doing this.
>
> Still Jeff wanted experiences with AVP and thatıs mine.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 7/9/03 12:40 PM, "John Rodgers" <j_rodgers@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like improper break-in and/or breakin oil!
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> 88 GL Driver
>>
>> Mike Miller wrote:
>>> Got a complete AVP rebuild on their core, 2.1. This was done last
> year,
>>> April or so. I have 27K miles on it.
>>>
>>> The rings never seated, uses a quart of oil every 2 K miles. Blows
> oil
>>> smoke on start up if it sits on a hill for a couple of days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/8/03 11:56 PM, "Jeffrey Schwaia" <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
>>> <mailto:jeff@TSSGI.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Has anyone had any experiences with AVP engines? I just picked up
a
>>>> pristine '86 Basic Camper that had an AVP longblock installed 30K
> miles ago.
>>>> Apparently, the engine has dropped a valve seat, I haven't pulled
> the head
>>>> yet, but that's what the PO's mechanic told her. Anyways, I was
> going
>>>> through the meticulous records and noticed that the engine was
> replaced 30K
>>>> miles ago and the heads were replaced under warranty approximately
> 5K miles
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> I have two reasons for asking: 1) if their engines are shoddy, I'll
> do a
>>>> complete rebuild rather then just the top-end, and 2) I'm often
> asked about
>>>> rebuilt longblocks (I won't sell longblocks, only in-house
rebuilds)
> and
>>>> although AVP is local, I don't want to steer anybody wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Please... I'm not looking for recommendations for longblocks, just
> any
>>>> experiences with AVP.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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