Date:         Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:45:50 -0700
Reply-To:     Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Are Ebay second chance auctions legit?
Comments: To: sstones@IDIRECT.COM
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Who put a rock in your pants?

This is some method developed by EBay to keep jerks from bidding the price
up with NO intention to pay when they have won the auction. The next person
down has no obligation to buy it at the last bid price or any price. They
are just offered the opportunity to do so when some loser jerk has ripped
off both the seller and the second place bidder by dishonest bidding.

As far as both seller and buyer being capable of dishonest behavior, what's
new? I have had sellers yank there item 20 minutes before the end of an
auction because they weren't getting the price they wanted. The same item
shows up twop weeks later and the seller tries again. I have complained to
EBay, but it does no good, it's a seelrs auction site.

tim in san jose, home of EBay


>From: SStones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
>Reply-To: SStones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Are Ebay second chance auctions legit?
>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:49:44 -0400
>
>At 06:29 PM 7/7/03 -0700, Robert Keezer wrote:
>>I sell on eBay and this is what a second chance offer is: a opportunity to
>>buy the item you lost to the highest bidder who did'nt buy the item.
>
>Ebay states that the seller is obligated to sell the item to the highest
>bidder.  If the seller does not do so they have misused the system.  Argue
>all you want that it's the high-bidder's fault, at that point it doesn't
>matter. The Seller is the one who suddenly starts sending unsolicited
>e-mails to the legit bidders. Always be wary of salesmen who have to resort
>to spam mailing to unload their crap.
>
>
>>So the seller has the option of relisting or offering it to a lower bidder
>>or underbidder.
>>
>>It is a eBay sponsored action and in no way is it a scam.
>>No one forces you to bid higher in an auction but yourself.
>>
>>You are offered a second chance to buy it at your highest bid, not the
>>highest bid placed by the person who outbid you but then did'nt buy the
>>item
>>for whatever reason.
>
>Because the seller IS the highest bidder and/or the seller does not do his
>part in ensuring that the item is sold to them.
>
>
>>This is not some kind of shill deal, unless you can find by researching it
>>that the seller is involved.
>
>Alright, Devil's Advocate mode off. Bidders and sellers are both dishonest
>when allowed to be.  Great work, E-bay, you've failed to ensure that your
>services are legit.

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