Date:         Fri, 1 Aug 2003 01:24:22 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Temp warning light blinking...
Comments: To: mark drillock <drillock@earthlink.net>
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At 08:29 PM 7/31/2003, mark drillock wrote:
>blinking. I have seen blinking and needle weirdness caused by the sender
>wire being routed too close to the exhaust pipe near the thermostat
>housing on a 2.1. The insulation had melted through and whenever
>vibration caused the bare wire to touch the pipe the led would flash. If
>it touched solidly for long enough the temp needle would rise too but
>when you pulled over to the side of the road it would drop to normal and
>stop blinking. Drove my friend crazy.

Right -- only takes a very short signal to trigger the blink which then
continues for several seconds regardless.

>van. The blinking problem drove me batty until I noticed that her
>alternator output voltage dropped completely at certain rpms. The led
>blinking seemed to be rpm related too and was worse when the headlights
>were on so I looked at grounds first. Finally I replaced the alternator
>and the blinking episodes ended. Too bad I couldn't look at the dash
>voltage with a scope as I bet it would have shown some drops that fooled
>the led circuit into thinking that the key had been turned of and back
>on.

It's very sensitive to input voltage -- I'm not even sure it will get all
the way down to 9.5 without starting to blink.  9.499 maybe... <g>

The newer ones I've seen have tantalum timing caps instead of aluminum, has
to help -- but I don't think they cleaned the boards enough to handle
humidity gracefully, and of course as the cap gets leakier it takes less
shunt resistance to upset everything.

d

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