Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:27:49 -0400
Reply-To: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject: Re: All Vanagon owners aren't JERKS...are they? Please read
this!!!
In-Reply-To: <Law14-F22vHYOumdUxN0000dade@hotmail.com>
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Let me warn you and all list members: Buying long distance you are
at the mercy of the owners trust. He may not even know much about the
vehicle. He may not be very mechanically inclined. This guy obviously
had a change in hart. Even if you did buy the vehicle, would it have made
it home? You were really stretching your luck. $200 is a cheap lesson.
Once you got there you obviously are paying full price. Most asking prices
have some room to bargan. If you come from another state, what are
you going to say, "I'll stop back tomorrow"....
I hope other list members don't repeat this mistake
Eric 86-VW4x4
vw4x4@fyi.net 86-SS Syncro
Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler
92-Jetta GWC
www.fyi.net/~vw4x4/vw4x4.htm
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Brett Baer wrote:
> This email really has no purpose other than to vent some frustration and to
> warn other Vanagon enthusiasts from dealing with one of the biggest assholes
> I have EVER dealt with. Here it goes.
>
> I am a 20 year old college student I need a Carat to use as parts, so I
> found one for sale on autotrader.com. Pretty rough physical condition,
> front-end damage from collision with a deer, the interior is really dirty;
> but, mechanically good condition. I contact the owner and he sends me more
> pictures of the van. I decide to pay the $1500 asking price and buy a
> one-way bus ticket from Austin, TX (where I live) to Lawrence, KS (45
> minutes from the owner's house), an overnight, 18 hour, $65 ticket. The
> owner had agreed to pick me up at the bus stop in Lawrence and then I would
> drive the van back to Texas. All the details were worked out, this was not
> a capricious decision. To make a long story short, when I arrived in
> Lawrence the guy had a bunch of excuses why he couldn't pick me up. After a
> couple of hours at the bus stop on my cell phone working his lame excuses
> out, so that he had no more to offer, he says over the phone, "Forget it
> Brett...I'm not selling you the van", hangs up the phone and doesn't answer
> my calls. I resist the urge to get a taxi to the guys house because the
> only thing I could do was fight him; I couldn't force him to sell me the
> van. I figured he would probably just call the cops if I showed up
> demanding the title and keys. So, I go into the gas station, I mean bus
> stop, that I had been sitting outside of all morning after my over-night
> trip and buy a return ticket to austin ($105) and spend another day/night on
> the bus back to austin. I don't want this to happen to anyone else, or
> myself again.
>
> So no matter what you do, don't try to buy this guy's car:
>
> John "A-hole" Schubert of Midwest Flying Service
> 804 Pennsylvania Ave.
> Leavenworth, KS 66048
>
>
> He is selling a 1990 Vanagon Carat blue w/ grey moulding/interior,
> driver-side front-end damage from collision with deer, around 120k miles.
>
> Avoid this guy at all costs. I am still confused about what actually
> happened to me these past couple of days, I guess I am in shock. I can't
> believe anyone would do this. All I do know is that I am $200 poorer and 3
> miserable days older and depressed because I still need a parts van to
> finish the resto of my Syncro Westy.
>
> If anyone has any creative ideas of how I can seek some retribution from
> this guy please let me know, maybe BenT can lend me the shotgun he's been
> talking about (just kidding).
>
> My stomach hurts just thinking about it,
> Brett Baer
> Austin, TX
> '87 Syncro Westy
>
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