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Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:08:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Jason Milam <jason_milam@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jason Milam <jason_milam@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calif: Buying out of state
Comments: To: uther@dragonhome.org
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I think the screws have been tightened a bit. It's at least safe to say that California 2003 emission stadards are a lot more stringent than Montana 1980 standards.

It is my understanding that in California smog testing is not required for vehicles over a certain age (I think 25 years). I have uncovered no mention in my research of a maximum required expenditure for younger vehicles. Two Bay Area mechanics (one a VW specialists) mentioned nothing about a work around. Both suggested that I take the van back to Montana. If there is another solution I'd certainly like to know about it... anyone?

-j-bird

San Francisco 80 Westy

----Original Message Follows---- From: Ron Tipton <uther@dragonhome.org> To: Jason Milam <jason_milam@HOTMAIL.COM> CC: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM, uther@dragonhome.org Subject: Re: Calif: Buying out of state Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:04:49 -0400

> Have you invesigated the smog issue? A friend brought his '80 Westy to > California from Montana intending to sell it here. Not having been > manufactured for sale in California the vehicle is lacking emissions > equipment required by the CA DMV. Estimates to bring the thing up to code > were around $1200 - $1500 - and that's with no gurantee that it would pass > the actual emissions test even then. He'll be driving it back to Montana to > sell it there most likely... unless any listers are interested...

Wow! Things must have changed. When I moved to Berkeley from Columbia Mo. I brought my cars with me. Neither had been manufactured for sale in California. This was around 20 years ago and the cars were a 10 year old Volvo that I purchased in Norway and a one year old Toyota Land Cruiser from Mo. At that time there was a maximum amount you had to spend (I think it was around $150) and they let the car be licensed even if it didn't pass.

People move to California all the time and I can't believe that all have to buy new cars or spend thousands of dollars on their current cars. There must be some sort of way around this.

Ron

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