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Date:         Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:51:20 -0400
Reply-To:     Alan Pickersgill <alanpick@MAGMA.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Alan Pickersgill <alanpick@MAGMA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Some basic TypeIV engine help, please
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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Could be that a valve seat has come unglued and therby unseated. This happened to me in my 85 (water cooled). Sudden dramatic loss of power and a sound that was similar to a hydraulic valve lifter that has drained dry. In my case it recovered several times over a 7 hour drive,( we assume it re-seated temporily then came unseated again) but finally the symptoms came and stayed. Cosquence was a burnt piston. At that time the most sensible thing to do was to replace the engine with a factory rebuilt. I'm told the costs has since doubled.

This is just a possible explanation. Sounds like you'll have to pull it apart to see. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haynes" <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Some basic TypeIV engine help, please

> Assuming that the engine was in good shape before the trip (who knows) > it sounds like the engine was pushed too hard for too long. It is common > for these engines to fail after long trips. The next step will be to > check the compression to determine the extent of the damage. The > depression on the back of the valve stems is the result of too many > miles, cheap valves, or excessive heat. After overheating of this type, > the case will have to be checked for straightness. If the head gaskets > failed, a common cause is case warpage which results in the cylinders > not being level. Replacing the gaskets or heads with out correcting this > will only result in quick failure again. My guess is that this engine is > ready for an overhaul. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > Of Tom Young > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 3:02 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Some basic TypeIV engine help, please > > Hi all: > > Last night, I guess about 3:00AM, a friend of my daughter parked her '78 > Westy in front of our house, having driven from Bellingham, Washington > over > the course of 3 or 4 days. I had heard that "along the way" she had > been > having engine problems, though what I heard was the engine was leaking > oil > and the right-side pushrod tube oil seals had been replaced somewhere > around > Eureka, California. Of course, now that the vehicle is in my driveway, > things are much worse. > > Talking to my daughter's friend I'm told that the mechanic that replaced > the > right-side pushrod seals told her that one of the valve stems on #3 - > don't > know which one - had worn concave. During the trip from Eureka to the > SF > Bay area she had to stop and put in a quart of oil every 15-30 minutes. > She > also reports that a few miles from the house she experienced a > significant > decrease in power. When I started it up this morning it was hard to > keep > running, had virtually no power - I'd guess it's running on 3 cylinders > - > and blowing smoke badly, which the friend says is new. > > I don't want to deal with this right now, but I guess I have to since > she's > here and has no money. > > Anybody have so good "over the internet" diagnosis here? > > Thanks! > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Tom Young '81 Vanagon > Lafayette, CA 94549 '82 Westfalia > --------------------------------------------------------------- >


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