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Date:         Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:34:15 -0700
Reply-To:     RP <personalbsd@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         RP <personalbsd@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: urban stealth camping..in Iraq
Comments: To: Blake Thornton <blake@MATH.WUSTL.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.GSO.4.10.10308192235140.23951-100000@dax.wustl.edu>
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I couldn't help but think that if someone did not want to be noticed they could do this stealth camping. Do they have westy's in Iraq? Maybe Saddam is doing some stealth camping.

Cheers, Rick Sacto

--- Blake Thornton <blake@MATH.WUSTL.EDU> wrote: > OK, I'll bite. I've spent a good deal of time urban > camping (ie, living) > in my van. Here are a few tips from me: > > - Dont camp in one place very long, a couple of > nights at most. OK, I've > gone weeks at a time in one place, but its a bit > sketcy. > > - Never pop the top. Close all the curtains and > don't use a front > curtain. Instead, use a curtain just behind the > front seats (make one). > > - Park in residential areas. You want a good > neighborhood, but not too > good. > > - Don't cook where you are going to sleep. I'll > break this rule too, but > I find cooking in a city park to be the best and > then driving to where > I'll sleep. > > - Find a shower or make your own. I made a shower > for my westy, but I've > got to pop the top to use it. I found that waking > up and then driving to > a park to shower works alright. > > - Keep your keys handy and a cell phone just in > case. I've never had to > hurry out of a place due to jerks and hoodlums, but > I have been woken up > by the cops. At least the cops will probaby not > beat you up. > > - Keep still while sleeping -- You don't want to > raise too many concerns > with your "neighbors" (so keep the sex a bit > controlled :) ) > > - Go to the bathroom before getting to your > location. Have a gatorade > bottle for midnight bathroom needs (ladies, I don't > know what to tell > you). > > OK, thats all I can really think of. Urban camping > is really pretty > simple and it only takes a few times before you are > a master at it. The > shower is something I found to be most useful as it > can be a pain finding > a free open shower where you are living. > > One amazing thing that I've found is that since I've > urban camped a > significant amount, I've learned how to recognize > others who urban camp. I > alway see people camped around town (especially when > I lived in Utah). > > Blake > 84 Westy > St Louis > > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, John Parson wrote: > > > Living in the Westy, I've learned not to pop the > top, but rather move stuff around and sleep on the > bottom with all the curtains closed when utilizing > the free camping spots available in the urban > landscape. I try to find a dark place to park that > is unsigned, or at least signed by some > unlikely-to-enforce authority, such as the railroad. > Actually, the right of way along RR tracks is an > excellent prospect. I try not to wear a place out, > as locals will put up with a night, sometimes even a > few days, but they don't want you as a fixture of > the neighborhood. > > Anyone else got any urban camping tips? > > > > The Trundler > > '82 Westy > > '87 Westy > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >

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