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Date:         Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:04:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: eBay e-mail header: is this guy out to scam me?
Comments: To: andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ
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Pass Andrew. Turn the sucker in. If he don't scam you, he'll scam someone else, ASAP.

All his feedback is as a buyer. You have no clue as to how he will react with your money in his grubby little paws.

BTW - I have a camera just like that I'll send you. Please send N.Z. Sheckles in secure envelope to me and I will forward the camera to you. No money orders, they are a hassle and probably fake.

tim in EBay

P.S. what kind of camera was that? P.S.S. Did the America's Cup boat make it back in one piece? Inquiring minds want to know.

>From: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ> >Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: eBay e-mail header: is this guy out to scam me? >Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:02:53 +1200 > >I bid on a 5.0Mp Nikon Coolpix 5700 on eBay. I received two messages >ostensibly from eBay members (see footers) and can't but help be >suspicious that I would send my money and receive nothing back. > >I will get back to the two and see just what they're offering and how >they want payment etc. > >The bit I wonder about the first message is this: > >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.9 required=5.0 > tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, > NO_REAL_NAME,Q_FOR_SELLER > version=2.55 > >Does the FORGED bit above mean that the sender's address has been >altered of faked? This is a private response to an eBay bid, offering >me the same item cheaper; it was sent by an eBay member via eBay's >e-mail forwarding system. I suspect that the fellow is out to scam me. > >I even wondered if both messages are from the same person. ASAP is >not an acronym I'd use every day... > >It would be a nice camera for taking images of shells and VW vans... > >************************************* >1 >X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >From: khansonsf@yahoo.com >To: andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz >Subject: Question from eBay Member >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:16:49 PDT >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.9 required=5.0 > tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, > NO_REAL_NAME,Q_FOR_SELLER > version=2.55 >X-Spam-Level: **** >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.7 > >To member: fartulum >From member: x > >-------------------- > >Dear Ebay Member, > > I'm writing this message because i've noticed > that you are bidding on a Nikon CoolPix 5700 Digital Camera + CASE NEW! >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2945797653&category=46316 > Please click or copy and paste this link into your > internet explorer browser to see the product . > I have one identical with the product that you > are bidding on > and i need to sell it ASAP. I can't submit an > auction because my > credit card is not accepted at the seller account > registration process. > Because of this, i will sell it to you at the > price of 400 USD all shipping and insurance charges included. This is > an emergency so i guess my loss is your gain and i think you should > take advantage off this offer. > You can check my Ebay ID on Ebay Feedback > Forum or by going at the following web adress : >http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=midii_une > and see that i have many positive feedbacks. That > proves that i am a trustable person and i am very serious when i > place this offer. > > Please consider all facts and reply if you > would like to start a good business > > > Thank you for your time. > >-------------------- >This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. >If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and >not through eBay. > >eBay does not tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is >taking steps to protect members from this abuse. In addition, solicitations >to buy or sell items outside of eBay violate eBay rules and are not covered >by services that protect members such as feedback, insurance, escrow, and >dispute resolution. If this is an offer to buy/sell items outside of eBay, >please do not participate. Enter the following link into your browser >to learn more. Link: >http://pages.ebay.com/help/new/stopping_spam.html > >****************************** >2 >X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >From: silvio_prati@ .it >To: andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz >Subject: Nikon Coolpix 5700 Camera New >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 05:58:24 PDT >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 > tests=MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,NO_REAL_NAME > version=2.55 >X-Spam-Level: ** >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.7 > > >To member: fartulum >From member: y > >-------------------- > > >Hello, my name is Silvio Prati , I'm from Rome, Italy, and I hope >thatI won't waste your precious time with my offer. I saw that you are >interested in buying a Nikon Coolpix 5700 Camera and that >you also placed a >bid for this item. I'm contacting you to let you know that i have a >brand new, 100% identical item whith the one you are interested of, item >that also has an international warranty by factory. If you are >interested in closing this deal with me I will give you a 100% safe >and >fast method to close this deal. I can offer you this product at a >special price of 560$, shipping charges included, only if you want >to close the deal.I think this is a good opportunity specially for you >but also for me because I have the possibility to get this item at a >lower price by my brother who has a disscount at his workplace and I >turned this in a "little" bussines.If you are interested,please contact >me at silvio_prati@yahoo.it or replay to this email. To eliminate any kind >of >problems concerning you trusting me, please check my feedback. Please >go >to http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/feedback-login.html to see my >ebay record. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. Best Regards!" > > > > >-------------------- >This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. >If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and >not through eBay. > >eBay does not tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is >taking steps to protect members from this abuse. In addition, solicitations >to buy or sell items outside of eBay violate eBay rules and are not covered >by services that protect members such as feedback, insurance, escrow, and >dispute resolution. If this is an offer to buy/sell items outside of eBay, >please do not participate. Enter the following link into your browser >to learn more. Link: >http://pages.ebay.com/help/new/stopping_spam.html

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