Date:         Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:46:12 -0700
Reply-To:     Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      FW: start - won't start  - solution
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-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Wolz [mailto:wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:44 PM
To: 'fortinoj@SPEAKEASY.NET'
Subject: RE: start - won't start - solution

You've got spark and you've got fuel - you nave no excuse.  Now get in
it and drive!

Pull the plugs and dry them - you're flooded.

You pulled the plug wires.  Did you reinstall them in the correct
positions?  Have you fiddled around with the distributor?  Sounds to me
like a timing problem.

History:  why did you start working on the van in the first place?  Was
it running poorly or did you try to wake it up one morning and it said,
"Up yours"?  If it was running when you started this, retrace your steps
and figure out what you installed backwards.  Keep in mind you could
have two problems going at the same time.  Sounds to me like a timing
problem, though.  Check your plug wire sequence, then pull off the
distributor cap and check that you're at or near #1 when the timing mark
on the pulley lines up with the case.

Karl Wolz

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph Fortino
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:34 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: start - won't sart - solution

guys I've done the following and still have not start.

1. cleaned all grounds good
2. new fuel filter last one was dirty
3. checked the fuel pump have pressure.
4. replaced temp2 sensor.
5. new plugs wires and plugs since mine were a bit used.
6. looked at ECU for burnt parts found nothing. ( but maybe it would'nt
show )
   the prob by looking at it.
7. checked spark on all 4 and have good spark.
8. cleaned distro cap.
9. my hall is semi new

some reason it just cranks and does'nt fire up, poor thing drips gas
outta
the pipes after. could my injectors be bad or maybe my ECU took a dump,
but
i'm tring like hell to not swap it until i know its bad.

help elp help elp :) next place i might hit will be for beer so i can
sit and just drink in the dark

Joe 85gl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Pedersen [mailto:mikeped@SHAW.CA]
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:52 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: start - won't sart  - solution
>
> Check all the grounds in the engine compartment.  Particularly the one
from
> the left side of the engine to the sheetmetal.  Have you checked the
hall
> sender in the distributor?  Mine happened to be the ECU, but Darrell
Boehler
> has fixed mine up.  It's in the mail to me as I write.  $100 charge
seems
> very fair and he seems like a heck of a nice guy.
midwesty@midwest.net is
> his email address. Good tech advice can be had at www.vanagonparts.com
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Pedersen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric McRae" <dadofanna@COMCAST.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: start - won't sart - solution
>
>
> > I'm a new listmember and I have an '89 Wolfsburg that won't start
before
> > I replace the ECU I wanted to eliminate everything else.  This
thread
> > caught my attention and I have a few questions.  First which temp
sensor
> > did you replace?  So far I have eliminated the plugs, wires,
> > distributer, and coil in the ignition system as possible causes.
> > Fuel/air mixture is making it into the cylinders but there is no
spark
> > to ignite it.  Please tell me an inexpensive temp sensor could be at
> > fault instead of the $$$ ECU.Sorry if this has already been answered
and
> > I missed it.
>