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Date:         Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:33:19 -0400
Reply-To:     Laurence Smith <laurence@ALANASMITH.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Laurence Smith <laurence@ALANASMITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Help Needed: 88 Westy running rich and missing
Comments: To: Joel Cort <joel_cort@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <20030829001235.47612.qmail@web41005.mail.yahoo.com>
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Joel,

When you say ALL the grounds were cleaned up, did you include the one on the driver's side head? I had EXACTLY (and I mean **exactly**) the same symptoms and it was just that damn ground wire that needed fixing up.

- Laurence

---------------------------------------- Laurence Smith Hamilton, Ontario, Canada 90 Westy (fanumbos) 87 GL / 91 Subie 2.2 ----------------------------------------

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf > Of Joel Cort > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:13 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Help Needed: 88 Westy running rich and missing > > > HELP List experts, > > I was trying to help out a fellow Westy owner here in > Rochester and was not able. > > This is an 88 westy with 75K miles. On the NY thruway > heading for Roachester this poor guy had what I perceived > as the Vanagon Syndrome.... but not. > He started missing, spitting coughing and running very rich. > He got off the thruway and limped home at 10 mph. I went > over last night to try and bail him out with my wisdom and > spare parts. > > He stopped at a shop and got new plugs, wires, distributor > cap, rotor replaced thinking it was the problem. > > He also replaced the temp2 sensor and his O2 sensor is > about 7 month old. > He also has cleaned up and rewired all the ground connections. > > With all that in mind, I was convinced that the AFM was > faulty. We swapped out the AFM with a spare good spare one > that I have. The symptoms still remained or running very > rich with thick black smoke and very poor reving spitting > and coughing without a load on the engine. With a load > there is no power to move. > > Ok so then we tried swapping the ECU out with my spare ECU > connected to "the DIGITOOL". Once connected, it did not > run any better and the digitool readings all looked OK > except for the O2 sensor readings. I was concerned that > the AFM signals were not communicating.... but they were. > I unplugged the O2 sensor green wire and it ran a little > worse but not by much. > > SO at this point my VW Vanagon expertise is dried up. I am > perplexed and told him to take it to one of the local shops > (which none really have Vanagon and Vanagon Syndrome type > of experience). > > Any help from the list experts or insights on where to seek > the problem would be great and I could regain dominance on > these wasserbrainteasers. > > Thanks, > Joel > 89 Syncro Westy > Rochester NY > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >


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