Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:25:26 -0700
Reply-To: A Abian <amabian@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: A Abian <amabian@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Anyone know of a good cooler for a Vanagon...
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Eric,
Thanks for the reply. I'll check the Sanyo site and
see what they have. I'd definitely be interested in
an efficient fridge for the Van.
Sorry if the math was blinding. I agree that 10A at
12V translates to 1A at 120V. (However, if we're
looking at the actual power delivered to the fridge,
it's not the same due to increased resistive losses at
12v.)
My points are as follows:
1. The small fridges I checked on Sears and Lowes
would draw roughly 3A on average at 12V
(optimistically speaking).
2. The ARB site gives a range of figures for average
current draws (presumably at 12V): 0.7A to 2.4A. They
don't specify the conditions for this range.
Andrew
--- vw4x4@fyi.net wrote:
> The fridge I have clearly state, 120v 1 amp. Sonyo
> brand. I'll check
> the model
> if you like, as I'm at wok this moment. BTW....
> what's up with all
> this math....
> 120v @1 amp.... would be ,... a 12v@10
> amp..... plus losses...
> If the ARB fridge draws 3 amp at 12v, I missed
> this.
> Eric
>
>
> A Abian wrote:
>
> >Eric,
> >
> >I'd be curious to know where you've found compact
> fridges that draw an
> >average of 1 amp. I checked a few small ones at
> Sears & Lowe's, and their
> >annual consumptions are around 300 kWH. This works
> out to an average of
> >34W, or roughly 3 amps at 12V (neglecting losses
> from the 12V to 120V
> >inverter). This is probably optimistic since the
> annual consumptions are
> >most likely calculated based on a controlled indoor
> environment without any
> >extreme temps, not a Vanagon baking under the
> summer sun.
> >
> >Also, looking at the specs for the ARB
> Freezer/Fridge, they claim that the
> >42qt model only draws an intermittent 3.5A from a
> 12V source to maintain
> >below freezing temps in 100F heat. They later
> claim average power
> >consumption to be from 0.7 to 2.4 Amp-hrs (I'm
> guessing they mean Amps not
> >Amp-hrs, and I'm assuming at 12V, but this isn't
> clear).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Andrew
> >
> >On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 07:05:46 -0400, Eric Zeno
> <vw4x4@FYI.NET> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>AFter looking at this cooler, you would be better
> off to buy a small
> >>appartment size fridge, and a 120v to 12v
> converter. You can find
> >>one that will run with less than 1 amp, (witch is
> what this one runs on),
> >>and will cost a lot less.
> >>
> Eric
> >>
> >>Ty Graham wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I've got to put in a word for the ARB
> Freezer/Fridge.
>
>>>http://www.4wheelsupply.com/arb/portable-freezer-fridge.htm
> >>>
> >>>I got mine 3 years ago and we love it. It's
> efficient, quiet and will
> >>>make or keep ice in the warmest weather. We pre
> chill on 110 the night
> >>>before we leave, then just schlep out to whatever
> van we're in for the
> >>>weekend. I've never tested draw, but we've gone
> for three nights in
> >>>some warm places on a single optima yellow top.
> It's so liberating to
> >>>have really cold drinks rather than the lukewarm
> dometic "chilled." We
> >>>check the cooler all the time but mainly to make
> sure our carrots at the
> >>>bottom don't get frozen when we set the
> thermostat to 3.
> >>>
> >>>If I had to get one again, I'd get the 42 qt
> rather than the 33 just so
> >>>I could be more sloppy in packing. The only
> thing I use my Dometic for
> >>>now is to store unchilled beverages before
> transfer to the ARB. I put a
> >>>couple of pics on my site.
> >>>http://www.chow-graham.com/Ty/html/Ourcars.htm
> >>>
> >>>Ty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Vanagon Mailing List
> [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> >>>Of George Thorburn
> >>>Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:49 AM
> >>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>>Subject: Anyone know of a good cooler for a
> Vanagon...
> >>>
> >>>Jesse,
> >>>We have a plug in cooler (Coleman) and like it to
> supplement the fridge
> >>>in our van. We bought the 120 volt adapter and
> use the adapter before we
> >>>leave to pre cool the items we want to bring, we
> also use the adapter
> >>>when ever possible when we are camping or parked
> at friends or
> >>>relatives. We use the 12 volt option when we are
> driving but I do not
> >>>leave the 12 volt hooked up when we stop unless
> it is only for a few
> >>>minutes. I would be concerned about running the
> battery down. (if you
> >>>have 2 batteries this would not be as big of a
> concern) If we are
> >>>camping at sites with no 120 volt power then we
> bring a ice box type
> >>>cooler for drinks etc.
> >>>
> >>>Hope this helps,
> >>>
> >>>George
> >>>
> >>>'85 Westfalia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Anyone have a suggestion for a cooler for a
> Vanagon? My wife and I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>want
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>a cooler for the Vanagon for food and
> stuff...anyone have any
> >>>>>suggestions of good coolers to buy? What about
> the the ones that you
> >>>>>plug in...any info on these and how they work?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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