Date:         Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:57:12 -0700
Reply-To:     mark <guruvinnie@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         mark <guruvinnie@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      loud lifters
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Search the archives for "atf and mmo" ... you'll find
instructions on running 50/50 atf/oil at idle for
twenty minutes, before changing to just oil with 8oz
of mmo (with a new filter mahle OC 108 or mann
719/712)... (think I have those mann numbers right)...


I just had to do this after loud lifters started
occuring after someone installed a belt wrong, and the
oil tube for the dipstick was bent and pulled out of
the block resulting in contamination... when the drive
belt broke into pieces...

I had just changed the oil two days before this
happened... so it was fresh oil that was
contaminated... oddly enough the lifters would only
get loud after freeway driving... city driving would
quiet them down... In any case.. they're quiet now...
freeway driving is quiet.... Just wondering what is
going to happen next...

Date:    Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:25:47 -0500
From:    John Rodgers <j_rodgers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Loud lifter problem

Jim, if not already done, install a Mahle or Mann oil
filter - they are
the only ones to every use .. lots of reasons why but
just do it. Also
change oil to 20W50wt Dino oil or Mobil 1 15W50
synthetic. I recently
changed to the synthetic at 40,000 miles on a new
engine. It was using a
bit of oil, but now with the Mobil 1 it has been
reduced to negligeble

Thse two steps should stop the clackiing problem.

Regards,

John Rodgers
88 GL Driver

Felder wrote:

> The hydraulic lifters on my 90 Carat 2.1 have
started making very loud
> noises if the van sits for a few days.
>
> I noticed when I drove it VERY heavily loaded with
stuff to New York
> (from Alabama) a few weeks ago. I pulled into a rest
stop and heard the
> clacking, so I slowed it down the rest of the trip.
It was quite hot
> those two days.
>
> When I backed off on the highway speed, everything
sounded good again.
> I parked the van for a week in NYC. When the parking
lot guy brought it
> around, I heard the clacking again, which
disappeared once the car
> warmed up.
>
> That was a few weeks back. I'm usually in it every
day for something,
> but I haven't been outside the home office for a
couple of days.
> Tonight, I went to the store and the clacking was
back. Didn't drive it
> far enough to make it quit altogether, but it did
subside a bit.
>
> What to do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>


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