Date:         Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:30:08 -0500
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <j_rodgers@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         John Rodgers <j_rodgers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sliding door skin unglued
Comments: To: Doktor Tim <doktortim@ROCKISLAND.COM>
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What you are describing sounds like the new poly-urea products being
used in the auto industry. The new bumpers and fenders are made of the
stuff. Extremely tough, heat resistant, tear resistant,
virtually-everything-resistant!!! Extremely adhesive. Extrordianrily
difficult to remove after being installed. or applied to a surface.

It has also found it's way into the truck bedliner business, being far
tougher than polyurethanes, and not susceptible to moisture problems
duing installation, in the way poly urethanes are.

Regards,

John Rodgers
88 Gl Driver

Doktor Tim wrote:

> At 07:40 AM 09/24/2003, you wrote:
>
>>   Could this be a productSo, what do I do about it?
>> of living in Phoenix for a few years (melting), or is it just an old van
>> thing? Where do I get this glue from?
>
>
> Have not seen such in cooler climes. I bet in Phoenix you sure have
> softened the glue and it let go. Check with the body and paint repairs
> shops and suppliers about a higher heat adhesive, and cleaning off the
> old.
> If the original OEM adhesive is available it will be found at the VW
> Dealer
> Parts Dept. or Body Shop Mgr. Suspect in Pheonix they will have seen this
> problem before and know how to fix it.
>
> One body seam goo I know that would do is that used by Mercedes. Very
> easy
> to apply with brush. Will fill large gaps and voids. Paintable. Flexible,
> will not go hard and crack, ever. Full sun Pheonix heat would just soften
> it a tiny bit. Takes a propane torch to soften it a 1/4" at a time and
> onerous efforts to remove, picking and slicing it out in rubbery chunks.
> Super sound deadening and insulating properties. Just inspect some of the
> seams in the trunk of a Mercedes. They really lather this stuff on at the
> factory. The seams are the last place any rust develops on these chassis.
>