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Date:         Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:21:05 -0400
Reply-To:     Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Power Window Regulator
Comments: To: robertmstewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <BBA19596.1DD8%robertmstewart@mac.com>
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The aftermarket regulators that we sell (which I think is the only kind out there) will work on any Vanagon 80-91. We sell them to replace the OEM regulator or as a retrofit into vans that never had power windows. I have installed these myself and as long as you have the stock speaker in the door you are fine (the power motor is moved behind the speaker area with the aftermarket regulator). As for the problem you are having with the stock regulator not fitting, the only thing I can think of is that the motor for the aftermarket regulator may not work on the OEM regulator. The OEM regulator may need the OEM motor (I have never compared these two side by side but I am sure they are different). But as far as fitting the OEM regulator should fit no problem in your door and as long as you fit it with the OEM motor you should be good to go. So here are your options with pricing:

1. Stick with aftermarket regulator and motor (comes together) for $140 2. Go with OEM regulator which we sell for $140 and also buy new OEM motor for an additional $140. 3. Try to find these parts used (the motor would probably be OK used but the regulators wear out with age so be careful of buying a used one as it may not last).

Let me know if I can help you.

Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 http://www.vanagain.com http://www.strictlyvwauctions.com Phone: (856)-327-4936 Fax: (856)-327-2242

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of robertmstewart Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:43 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Power Window Regulator

Good Morning to all,

I have a question regarding my 89 Power Window Carat (production line late 88). The PO installed an aftermarket power window motor (bosch) and regulator (said it was a VW compatible Caravelle).

The regulator was failing recently and then the window fell of the track, and now I need to replace the regulator.

Seems simple but hereąs the problem. I took the van to my local NYC mechanic who does work on VWąs and German cars, they ordered an OEM VW power window regulator for an 89 Vanagon and they tried to fit and it did not fit for some reason, was this possible? He said he ordered an 89 but since the van was a late model 88 it did not fit with existing bosch motor. Possible?

The NYC mechanic said the Bosch Motor works fine, and that the PO retrofitted the motor plate to connect to this aftermarket regulator. I looked at it after they ripped it out and looked fine.

My question is shouldnąt an OEM regulator from any late model power window vanagon work in the my 89 Carat? As well shouldnąt any aftermarket unit work as well for any van from 86-91?

Do I need purchase an entirely new aftermarket motor and regulator now?

Or purchase a new OEM motor and regulator?

Does anyone know if the aftermarket units available online are any good?

TIA

Robert NYC 89 Auto PowerW Carat


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