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Date:         Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:34:55 -0700
Reply-To:     gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      springs and shocks for my 2WD Westy)
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I too will need springs and shocks. I have found that busdepot is my preferred vendor on many things but I am not sure about the springs. I have heard negative feedback about these springs. There is a custom spring service that will make oem springs that the vanagon group has used in the past. I would prefer to go with busdepot but I would like some satisfied busdepot spring customers to spring into action and give us their feedback. thanks gary Message: 3 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 04:17:33 -0000 From: "longrider_650" <longrider650@hotmail.com> Subject: springs and shocks for my 2WD Westy

Would someone point me to where I can purchase NEW SPRINGS and Shocks I'm wanting 4 of each. Thank you.

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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:19:12 -0400 From: "The Bus Depot" <ron@busdepot.com> Subject: RE: springs and shocks for my 2WD Westy

> Would someone point me to where I can purchase NEW SPRINGS and Shocks > I'm wanting 4 of each. Thank you.

We have both springs and shocks for 2WD Vanagons and Westies.

Our performance springs are $361 for a set of four, including listmember discount, which is less than VW charges for a single spring. They lower the vehicle slightly (by about 50mm), bringng it closer in height to a later model Wolfsburg. (This does not make your Vanagon into a "curb-hugger" as some other Vanagon lowered springs do, but does give it a slightly squatter, more aggressive stance, which I think looks very sharp). I have found that they greatly reduce (but do not always completely eliminate) the infamous Westy "kitchen lean" where the van sits slightly lower on the left than on the right. A "spring helper" in the left rear solved this when I put these springs in my van, but even without it the lean was extremely minor (and much improved) with the new springs. Since these springs are a mild performance spring, they are also a bit stiffer than stock. This means that they will reduce wind buffeting slightly, improve cornering, and reduce front end dip when braking hard. The improvements are definitely noticable. However, as with any performance spring, this will also make the ride a bit harder; not "bone jarring" but a bit more taut. I have not found this difference to be significant or even particularly noticable on typical road surfaces, but it's definitely noticable when you hit a severe bump or pothole.

Because of this tendancy, I would tend to avoid matching them to a shock that has similar characteristics, such as the KYB, but instead use a slightly softer shock. This would slightly offset, rather than exaggerate, the springs' firmer ride. Your best bet would probably be the European made Al-ko's, which are an excellent shock for the price, not too hard yet well controlled. The Bilsteins are also worth considering (excellent performers, but twice the price of the Al-ko's and a bit firmer).

Links:

Springs: http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=9878

Shocks: http://busdepot.com/view.jsp?model=43&category=38&group=-1&prodgroup=-1

- Ron Salmon The Bus Depot, Inc. www.busdepot.com (215) 234-VWVW

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