Date:         Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:05:00 -0600
Reply-To:     tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
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From:         tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: My Mechanic's Odd Reaction
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"Sierra"

Phosphate free, propylene glycol.  Better than ethylene from a metal erosion
perpective, or so they claim; carries a bit less heat because you need a little
more glycol for the same freeze protection.

Nontoxic, you can drink small amounts of it with no harm at all, according to
my toxicologist ER physician next door neighbour, but I wouldn't.  Doesn't
taste good like ethylene glycol, which is really toxic.  So better for our
forest floor friends, if spilled, or a hose splits.

6 to 7 USD per gallon, although they had a rebate program on recently that
dropped it to 5 per gal for up to 4 gallons.

BTW, color - Green.

tom

On 16 Oct 2003 at 17:41, Doktor Tim wrote:

> At 04:00 PM 10/16/2003, you wrote:
> >I've started using the factory Mercedes Benz coolant in my WBX'ers... and
> >it's pale yellow.  So now you have blue, green, orange and yellow.
>
> The Mercedes yellow is the same, made by BASF Germany for Mercedes. The
> Jaguar blue, same-0-same-o. No green I have ever seen is without
> phosphates. Never use green, verify all others as no phosphates e-glycol.
> And even more important, complete change for new yearly to be sure
> corrosion can NEVER GET STARTED. Keep the motor clean as well and you may
> just get 200,000 miles from a WasserBoxer before the hoses get hard from 20
> years of age and the first leak starts, but still no corrosion at all.
>


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Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW  EN34hx
85 Westphalia GL Albert
96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
taring@taring.org

"It is better to go into a turn slow, and come out fast, than to go into a turn fast
and come out dead." Stirling Moss