Date:         Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:28:14 -0400
Reply-To:     robertmstewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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From:         robertmstewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Headlight Alternatives for 89 Carat
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Hello Fellow Vanagon owners,  Have I got a question for you!

First let me say Happy Friday to all!

I am sure some of this has been addressed before but I am asking again with
some extreme specifics..

I have now owned my Blue 89 Auto Carat for 3 months and now realize the
headlights are the worst ever.

What are the best solutions to rectify the poor headlight issue regarding
quality, cost, installation process and longevity of the life of the
product?

I like the square headlights on my late model Vanagon and would rather keep
that square look if possible. Meaning I really would rather not convert to
the round early 80¹s Vanagon models light assembly with aftermarket lights.

I was wondering how people felt about the www.projektzwo.com products, the
headlight kit DE and fog light kits, whether they were any good, cost
factor, ordering process, delivery time, installation, experience. Etc...
http://www.projektzwo.com/cgi-bin/e-shop.pl?htmldatei=vw.html

I was wondering about people¹s experience with the aftermarket round
headlights from busdepot -  bosch H4 Halogen Headlight conversion. Which can
replace stock sealed-beam headlight and improves lighting. Priced Each, $40
0301600118 . I was thinking of mounting these on front bumper for better
brights.
http://www.busdepot.com/busdepot/details.jsp?partnumber=0301600118

Goal:
I wanted to have the regular lights running with some driving lamps that
were low to the bumper as well has as a possible additional bright beam for
country road driving. Is this kind of setup possible to do?

I was also thinking of installing a set of headlight relay upgrade kit¹s to
upgrade the standard high/low bean and low beam headlights for  high wattage
bulbs - 400 watts on high beam with installing a 15 amp fuse on the high
beam circuit with 80/100 W bulbs. Which kit is the best?

? To upgrade the 2 internal stock lights to the new higher power lights I
assume purchase 1 kit or 2?

If I want to have the additional Hella round brights added and a set of day
running low beam lamps do I need to purchase 2 more relay upgrades?

What are the differences between all the different upgrade kits I see
available:
volkscafe.com
http://volkscafe.com/index.php?sec=van&VSES=38df13701dc8fcea693a524aa327b9de
$40

Go Westy:
http://www.gowesty.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=gw&Categ
ory_Code=vp-e-lighting

High-Power Headlight Upgrade Kit
Item: GVW-WR1 
Price:  $79.95 
Fits: 86-91 


Big Amp Headlamp Relays
- 
http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!E1!7D!00302E539293/VanStuff/VanagonWestfali
a/
From Terry: CTONLINE@webtv.net
$37.00 plus $4.00 priority mail shipping.

Vanagon Headlamp Relay Upgrade
Frank Condelli 
$46 USD 
http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/hdltrela.htm


NEW LIGHTS:  Fastforward
Replacement Lights for Day/Bright lights (outer large lights ­ European)
http://www.fastforward.ca/vanagon/
1986 to 1992 Vanagon Outer Light Kit [ Rectangular Lights ]
Hella Hi/Lo Beam Rectangular H4 Lights with integrated European Park Lamps.
Each light kit comes with:

*    Left and right Hella H4 light shells (outer lights)
*    Pair of 55/60W H4 bulbs 
(upgradeable to 80/100W - US$15 additional)
*    Pair of park light holders with 5W park bulbs
*    Pair of weather boots for rear of lights
*    Pair of terminal housings and terminal connectors.
1986 to 1992 Vanagon Outer Light Kit
Expedited Parcel to Canada and the USA (Xpresspost available)
Total Cost  
$365

1986 to 1992 Vanagon Inner Light Kit [ Square Lights ]
Hella Hi Beam Square H3 Lights - Each kit comes with;

*    Left and right Hella H3 light shells (inner lights)
*    Pair of 55W H3 bulbs 
(upgradeable to 100W - US$15 additional)
1986 to 1992 Vanagon Inner Light Kit
Expedited Parcel to Canada and the USA (Xpresspost available)
Total Cost 
$245

? With these lights do need to purchase the headlight relay upgrade?
? Anyone ever install these and use them, what¹s the feedback, worth it?



Fog Light Kit 
Avolkswagonpart.com (Bosch )$117 Part# 1L100-29471 (comes with bulbs, on/off
switch/relay
http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/smittys/av/wizard.jsp?partner=smittys&c
lientid=avolkswagenpart&baseurl=http://www.avolkswagenpart.com/&cookieid=12N
0REHLL&year=1989&make=VW&model=VAN--003&category=P&part=Fog+Light+Kit


Thanks to everyone for their advice!

Have a great weekend.

Robert
NYC