Date:         Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:20:28 -0600
Reply-To:     tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
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From:         tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
Organization: Tippen Ringware
Subject:      Re: My Mechanic's Odd Reaction
Comments: To: David Brodbeck <gull@GULL.US>
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Possibly so.

What is the euro spec?  And is it in the list of specs I sent?  I also found
since then that Cummins Diesel approves of it in general, not that that means
anything to this group.

And remember this stuff is zero phosphate, which, I think, is what is at the
core of this.  It meets all other specs, including the ethylene ones, for
protection, and some of the tests I've seen show lower erosion of Al engine
alloys than ethylene glycol.  Which is a really good thing, unless I'm wrong.

I would suggest anyone interested spend some time running combinations of
"ethylene propylene glycol erosion coolant"  and any other keywords you can
think of on google, read at least several thousand words from various sites,
and then come back and rip me a new one if you wish.  Because that's what I've
done, and this stuff looks pretty damned good, and it's been heavily tested.

tom

On 17 Oct 2003 at 19:36, David Brodbeck wrote:

> On Friday 17 October 2003 07:21 pm, tom ring wrote:
> > That's what industry specs are for.
> >
> > I'm not going to argue about this it's silly.
>
> The Doktor does have a point, though...European specs have been different
> from American ones all along, probably for a good reason.  Remember that
> green, phosphate-laden Prestone was the American spec for years and years.
>


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Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW  EN34hx
85 Westphalia GL Albert
96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
taring@taring.org

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