Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:54:14 -0700
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From: Steve Delanty <laurasdog@WEIRDSTUFFWEMAKE.COM>
Subject: Re: ford window cranks?
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When I upgraded my front speakers, I used Ford handles
because they give over 3/4" of clearance to the door panel,
which is enough to clear some non-stock speaker grills...
I poked my head into about 50 fords looking for handles.
It appeared that most 70's, 80's, 90's cars with NON power
windows have handles that will work.
There seems to ba at least 3 basic styles of handle.
There are some chromed metal ones with plastic knobs
which seem to be the most durable.
There are plastic ones that have a visible screw hole (like
the metal ones do), and there are also plastic ones that
have the screw hole hidden and you have to pry the plastic
outer skin back (like the VW ones) to access the screw.
It appears that all 3 types will work, so which ones you get
is a matter of personal taste....
The chromed metal ones are strongest if the chrome doesn't
offend you.
Note that a small bit of modification is required to make the
Ford handles work. The splined part of the handle is too long
and if you tighten the screw snugly the back of the splined
part hits on the stationary tube that surrounds and holds
the splined shaft, and it rubs and grinds away at stuff when
you roll the window up and down. You need to cut about
1/4" off the splined socket on the crank so that the end of
the shaft bottoms out inside the crank instead of the back
end of the crank rubbing when the screw is fully tightened.
When you shop for cranks, wiggle the knob part of the crank
to make sure the rivet that holds it on isn't all worn out yet.
I found some cranks that the knob was pretty sloppy, and
some that we're still nice and snug. Rear window cranks
probably get used less than fronts...
Some cranks had a #2 phillips screw, some had a torx screw
and a few had allen screws, so take a selection of tools with you.
Happy crank hunting...
Steve
EJ22 -> '86 Westy "Escape Pod"
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At 11:11 AM 10/20/2003, Scott wrote:
> my less than one year old window crank just came off
>in my hand this morning, or rather half of it did...So
>I do not want to replace that with junk again, and I
>remember seeing that someone had figured out that a
>certin ford crank would fit, and clear the bigger
>speakers as well, so that is what I want to do, but I
>cant' find it in the archives....anybody know what
>will fit off hand? thanks
>
>=====
>Scott Wilson
>85 GL Westfalia