Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:15:02 +0000
Reply-To: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Lug Nuts for Audi 5000 Turbo Wheels
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><< FYI (just to add to what Ben said; ALL Audi's after'85 have 14mm bolt
>diameters. Bolt pattern on Audi wheels with 5 holes is 5x112 which is the
>same as our Vanagons. All Audis use ball shaped seats. So do all VW's. This
>is of course directly pertaining to stock OEM wheels. >>
>
>Chris, let's not generalize this too much. NOT all Audi's after 85 have the
>5X112mm bolt pattern. The VW based Audi TT has a 5X100mm bolt pattern. Ask
>me
>how I know this? Remember those beautiful TT alloys I was selling not too
>long
>ago? I originally bought them for my Syncro. Although I could have easily
>had
>them redrilled to he correct bolt pattern for less than $100, they exposed
>too
>much of their vulnerable centers for off-road use.
My bad. I forgot about the TT.
Take care to check the
>seats of the wheels you are contemplating. Some are designed for Allen head
>"tuner" lugbolts and do NOT have the same radius as the ballseats on most
>14mm
>bolts/studs.
I would be curious as to what wheels that are Audi factory units that do not
come with ballseat style holes.
>
><< On the scary side :) I did not lengthen my rear studs for the A4 wheels
>on
>my Van. I have put the van to the test (and no I am not talking about long
>freeway driving) and they havent fallen off yet. This of course is
>compounded with 5mm spacers too. :) The fronts have spacers that are 25mm
>thick and I used Audi bolts to attach them to the spacers. No problem there
>either (except for some rubbing which has been cured).>>
>
>As discussed in this forum many times in the past, VW engineers have stated
>that you need that 7.5 turns for safe attachment. Though you can surely get
>away with much less, there will be less margin for error. I have seen
>stripped
>studs at a local VW shop. On one case the stud exhibited stripping on the
>3rd
>thread. That told me this guy was only engaged about three turns. I guess
>that
>did not meet with the minimum standard.
>
>Your wheels may not have fallen off on your driving excursions but be
>careful
>driving around tight corners with a full load.
Dont get me wrong, I would not recommend ANYONE to have their wheels
attached the way mine are. It is definitely not a good idea.
Chris DeLong
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