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Date:         Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:40:57 +0100
Reply-To:     Raimund Feussner <rfeussner@GMX.DE>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Raimund Feussner <rfeussner@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: "conventional" transmission for a mid-engine conversion
Comments: To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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Concerning 4x4, my Audi donor was a quattro, too. I disabled the rear ouput shaft by welding the torsen diff so it became a solid shaft and took one gear out so that there is no connection to the rear output shaft. Now the torsen diff behaves like a nomal gear wheel and the rear output doesnīt move.

The rear output can be seen on www.vwbus-online.de/feussenr/mittelmotor.htm

I donīt know anything about U.S. 4x4 with a transfer case between transmission and rear diff that gets the power back to the front wheels (BMW ix and Touareg style)

Raimund

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Marshall" <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: Re: "conventional" transmission for a mid-engine conversion

> I've been pondering the 7.3L Turbo Diesel swap too. > > The problem with, say a 7.3L Ford 4x4 swap, is that there is a transfer case > to get power to the front wheels of a Ford as opposed to the AWD system > found in the Audi. You would have to use the engine, transmission and > transfer case and figure out a way to make it so the output power to the > 'rear wheels' is disabled and 100% of the power would go to the front > wheels. > > Personally I think the AWD system is the way to go. Audi V8s are getting > cheap - LOTS of power there and it would be simpler to do that swapping in > that POS Ford / Dodge / Chrysler stuff. > > > David Marshall > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > > Due to the large volume of email we receive, PLEASE include previous > emails when responding. This will allow us to read the complete dialogue > in one message and will result in quicker and more accurate responses. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of Sudhir H. Desai > Sent: November 17, 2003 7:27 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: "conventional" transmission for a mid-engine conversion > > > i know one of our resident germans has performed a mid-engine swap on his > van using the audi longitudinally mounted v6+transaxle (which normally > powers the f wheels) and shifting it back to the r wheels as a unit. i am > thinking of going the non-german way yet again, and using either ford or > chevy components in a mid engine swap. to keep cost down, i would need to > use a ford/chevy transmission. my uncertainty is that the output shaft on > the transmission will not directly bolt up to the input shaft on a rear > diff. or, if i use a "driveshaft" of sorts, it would bind constantly from > being at a not-normal angle. the other option in my mind would be to slide > the rear end further back, thereby extending the wheelbase of the van, but > that brings up another set of problems.. namely sheetmetal fabrication. > > anyways, if poeple have comments/suggestions, please reply-all, for flames > just pmail me to keep them off the list ;) > TIA. > ~sudhir > >


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