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Date:         Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:10:25 -0800
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
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From:         Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: ETKA & ELSA ?  Canada different than the US?
Comments: To: Jeffrey Schwaia <>
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Just a minor point, the copyright laws as they pertain to digital media do differ from one country to another. Not that I am saying it is legal (in Canada) to distribute copied versions of other's works without their permission, but for a couple of years now, we Canadians have been paying a tax on recordable media that is/was supposed to be returned to the original artist (musical).

Muddies up the water a bit.

Also, and it has been mentioned on this list before, sometimes we have different ethics when it comes "stealing" from corporations (ie VW) versus individuals.

Anyhoo, I think all vans should come with a copy of EKTA and a copy of the Bentley Manual. And Vanagon listserv instructions :)


-- '82 Westy -> diesel converted to gas in '94

on 21/11/03 9:59 am, Jeffrey Schwaia wrote:

> IMHO: Selling ETKA is an ethical issue. On one hand, I agree that Frank is > probably not making too much money selling a few copies at $10 each, on the > other hand, does he really have the right to sell it at all (regardless of > the price)? > > Perhaps we could start a free ETKA society. I haven't looked into it, but I > doubt if it would be very difficult to create a downloadable copy of ETKA. > That way anyone with enough bandwidth (or patience) could get a copy. The > bandwidth impaired could borrow a copy and reimburse the sender for shipping > (if necessary). > > ETKA 4 ALL... > > Cheers, > > Jeff

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