Date:         Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:58:00 +0000
Reply-To:     Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ETKA
Comments: To: RAlanen@AOL.COM
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Ok well I will agree to disagree. ETKA should be free. And Im sure you use
those burners that you have gone through for the sole purpose of copying
ETKA and selling it, right?

And as far as time invested, helping another VW person out to be able to
look at VW parts should have a fee right? Last time I checked, the time it
takes to burn a CD is pretty minimal; not to mention the fact that it is not
necessary to stand there in front of the machine for the duration of the
burning process.



Chris DeLong
Fine Tuning
206.367.5503
www.finetuningperformance.com
Seattle, WA USA





>From: Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: RAlanen@AOL.COM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: ETKA
>Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:15:42 EST
>
>         ETKA, opened a real can of worms here !  Thanks to all who have
>offered words of support.  When I get rich from "selling" ETKA I'll by each
>and
>every one of you a brand new Vanagon !
>         So you wanna to go buy a burner and keep it running, gone through
>two
>in the past year AND maintain your system AND keep a load of discs on hand
>and a pile of mailers too AND then burn and check each CD, yes check...
>wanna
>know how many duds I have in the pile next to me.  Then the ones that
>somehow
>mysteriously don't work when they arrive at their destination and I have to
>send
>out another copy.......done immediately without any question or charge.
>AND,
>answer e-mail after e-mail as to why it won't install and how to install
>with
>this OS and that OS....AND address the mailers AND take them over to the
>Post
>Office and deal with them.  Do I have to keep on ?  Meanwhile, I have a
>customers vans in the shop waiting for me to fix them.  One man band
>operation here
>folks.  This is not your neighbourhood VW dealer with a gazillion $s behind
>them.
>         AND...as for the stealing issue, wanna see my VW parts bill by
>month
>?  Talk about who's stealing what where and when.  Check the price of the
>output shaft nose cone seal on your Syncro tranny folks, $100 CND my
>friends, for
>a SEAL !  That's just one example, I could list an entire page of them but
>I'm, sure you get the point.  The parts guy at my dealer is happier than a
>pig in
>shit that I call him up and give him the part numbers of the parts I want.
>Saves him a whole hell of a lot of problems with looking up stuff, getting
>wrong stuff, returns, credits, etc, etc, etc.  Well, you get my point if
>your in
>the "Real" world.
>         Anyways, I will not make anymore comments on this subject.  All
>it's
>doing is filling up the archives with dribble that is of no benefit to
>anyone.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Frank Condelli
>Almonte, Ontario, Canada
>BusFusion a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13, 2004
>'87 Westy & Lionel Trains
>Member: Vanagon List, LiMBO, IWCCC & CCVWC
>Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley
>STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel Mufflers
>Frank Condelli & Associates or http://frankcondelli.com

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