Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:57:29 -0000
Reply-To: kfilc <kfilc@SYMPATICO.CA>
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From: kfilc <kfilc@SYMPATICO.CA>
Subject: Re: Propane Tanks, (NVC) politics NO!
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There are even some listees in Cacada and we have our own problems
with governments. So keep the politik out of here.
KARL
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----- Original Message -----
From: "mark drillock" <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:13 PM
Subject: Propane Tanks, (NVC) politics NO!
> Now that I have been properly clued in to the intended meaning of some
> of his post here is my reaction.
>
> Can't we leave this political stuff out of our posts?
>
> I have not read that much of the stuff regarding these regs but what I
> have read clearly predates any possible link to the current regime
> whatever it's other faults may be.
>
> It seems that OPD devices were first forced on some tank manufactures
> due to a class action court case in Marin, California, in 1994. Not
> exactly Bush country, not exactly a tank manufacturer's conspiracy.
> Liberal Northern California courts, maybe? Perhaps some tanks actually
> did blow up? Maybe the devices are even a good idea? (Superior Court for
> the State of California for the County of Marin, settlement order in
> Case No. 157907)
>
> It seems that the regulatory requirements for OPD to be fitted on new
> DOT tanks began in Oct 1998 while pre-existing DOT tanks were allowed a
> grace period to remain in use without retrofitment until Apr 2002. How
> did Bush manage that? He wasn't sworn in until 2001 and some other guy
> was Pres at the time the regs were issued.
>
> If one is unable to avoid dragging politics into list posts perhaps
> limit oneself to at minimum half truths.
>
> My preference is for no politics on the list. I don't really need to
> know what people here think of politicians, past or present. I really
> don't need to read falsehoods, whatever part of the political spectrum
> they may come from.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> Pensioner wrote:
> >
> > Portable propane tanks are DOT tanks and require recertification. The
Westy
> > one is an ASME tank which does not require recertification, at least
not
> > yet. When your DOT tank is 12 years old, empty it and recycle it, the
> > ninnies in our current regime require a new overfill protection device
or
> > OPD on all DOT tanks so the untrained masses don't continue to kill
> > themselves in large numbers by overfilling the old tanks. It seems
the
> > piles of bodies littering the landscape became offensive to the tank
> > manufacturers who lobbied the shrubbery to get the law passed, all in
the
> > name of safety and security as is the fashion these days. I have a
local
> > purveyor who fills my tank. The local purveyor near Kayenta AZ had no
> > issues with a nicely kept 15yr old DOT tank. YMMV.
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