Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:44:11 -0800
Reply-To: jbclem <jbclem@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From: jbclem <jbclem@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: engine help needed
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Anthony,
It is a bit unusual that a mechanic would install a used engine without at
least checking to see that it turned over by hand.
Have you asked him about that, and if it really is frozen wasn't there some
kind of guarantee that came with it? I'm not clear if you now have 2 1.9L
engines and/or if the frozen one is the one sent by mistake instead of a
2.1L or a different one you purchased somewhere else. But make sure it's
really frozen...a vendor would really have to be dishonest and stupid to
send you a locked up engine. That would be fraud ( fraud: any act,
expression, omission, or concealment calculated to deceive another to his or
her disadvantage ) and that would open him up to criminal prosecution.
You should also check with EBAY to see what control they have over their
vendor for this kind of situation...I'm sure they have rules that they
expect the vendors to follow. Also, when I had a problem with EBAY fraud I
contacted the police department in the vendor's city and since I wasn't the
only one with the same problem, they assigned a detective to the situation
and eventually we all had our money returned. If you paid for one item, and
received a different one, or if you paid for a working item and received a
non working one, and can prove it.. then it's worth looking for some
leverage from anyplace you can find it.
Hope I've got this right, I didn't read your original posts. I know that at
a minimum if the mechanic didn't check the engine before installing it, he
shouldn't be charging you for the installation or removal. And make sure,
as someone else said, it's not a flywheel with zero endplay, or a starter
stuck in the thrown out position, etc...
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Bailey" <abailey@CLAS.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: engine help needed
Hello all, Here's the latest update on my replacement engine saga....
My mechanic got the 1.9L engine installed and low and behold -- its
locked up tighter than a drum so to speak! So now I'm still without
an good engine after going through all of this hassle and most of our
savings accounts.
So if anyone has got a good 2.1L engine available, I'm still needing
one. I really need to get this van back on the road as inexpensively
as possible. I had thought that buying this engine would save me a
bunch of money, however as it is now it's done nothing but cost me a
lot of money that we couldn't afford to waste and I'm not any further
ahead than when I started. I've checked around with the salvage yards
and no one has any Vanagons, let alone 2.1L engines out of an '86 or
newer.
The reason I'm also posting this to the Subaru & engine conversion
lists in case one of you might have a good 2.1L engine for sale. My
apologies if you get this request more than once.
Thanks, Anthony Bailey
At 8:42 PM -0600 12/1/03, Anthony Bailey wrote:
>Hello All, thanks for your info and words of wisdom with this
>problem. In case you don't remember I bought a 2.1L from an ebay
>seller and he sent me a 1.9L and refuses to take responsibility for
>the mistake. He said if I'd pay shipping for the 1.9L back to him,
>he'd look around and see if he had a 2.1L and then I'd have to pay
>for shipping the motor back to me.
>
>I've talked with a local attorney. He says since the guy I bought
>the engine from is so far away that it would cost more than what I
>paid for the engine to contest this and that I would be better off
>to just sell the engine and get the correct one.
>
>So if anyone needs a 1.9L, which according to the seller - runs good, no
>leaks and was rebuilt within the last few years, contact me (573)
>238-2143. I'd like to have $700 for it. If no one needs this then I
>guess I'll have my mechanic move the parts off of my 2.1L and
>install the 1.9L into my '87 Vanagon.
>Thanks, Anthony Bailey
>
>Oh and btw the seller that I bought this from is...
>Paul Perko
>ebay alias munkybutt92 <munkybutt92@yahoo.com> and et_hehe also
>1214 8th st se
>Minneapolis, Minnesota 55414
>(612) 331-2378
>
>Hope no one else has to have any dealings with him.
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