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Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:15:55 -0500
Reply-To:     Jonathan Farrugia <jfarrugi@UMICH.EDU>
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From:         Jonathan Farrugia <jfarrugi@UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      oxygen sensor
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i have a technical oxygen sensor question i would like to pose to the list. i am in the process of replacing the oxygen sensor on a engine from a 99 golf 2.0 liter engine code AEG. the oxygen sensor that i am replacing is the one after the catalytic converter. in an attempt to cut the cost on this replacement i saw that it was a four wire bosch sensor, so i searched the web for cheap four wire bosch sensors that could be spliced to my wiring harness. i found a sensor for $40 for a 93-95 chrysler concord. when i went to change the sensor out i noticed that it was unlike any sensor that i had seen before.

after doing some more web research i have determined that this car and all newer vw's and audi's are using planar oxygen sensors. the one i bought is a four wire heated thimble sensor. so my question is will the four wire heated thimble work for me or do i need to buy a planar sensor, ie what are the draw backs of running a thimble sensor in place of a planar sensor? from what i have read the differences are that the planar sensor reacts faster, heats faster, and requires less current to run the heater, but other than that it looks like the output is the same. one other question i would like to ask is does anybody know the bosch part number for the oxygen sensor after the catalytic converter on a 99 golf? mine was pitted on the first couple of digits so i can't make out the number and i can't find the number on the web, the long bosch part number that is.

i've been using the bosch site to cross numbers for cheap planar sensors and i have it down to about $61 for a planar sensor that can be spliced to my wiring harness. thats probably what i will do but i would still be interested to know if i could use the thimble sensor in place of the the planar sensor. if anyone wants to do reading on sensor stuff here are some links. i've asked this question to some other lists and come up short so i am depending on the cumulative far reaching wisdom of the vanagon list. :)

-------------------------------------------------------- bosch faq oxygen sensor web site

http://www.boschusa.com/AutoParts/FAQs/OxygenSensors/

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vw 2.0 uses a planar oxygen sensor

http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/may2003/o2.htm

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which cars use planar oxygen sensors, LSF 4 narrow band sensors

http://www.forparts.com/Bos02update2.htm

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technical pdf on bosch sensors, very good

http://www.sts.sae.org/membersonly/techinfo/servicetech/oxygen13-17.pdf

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