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Date:         Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:12:04 -0500
Reply-To:     Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
Subject:      Re: What makes a pyrometer's cable so special? - conclusion
Comments: To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>,
          SyncroList - post <Syncro@ONElist.com>
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David,

Well everyone is bouncing around the right answer here, but in technical terms that might not be easily understood so here's a laymans explanation. I learned the answer 30 years ago when I added a VDO Head Temp Gauge to one of a string of modified Beetles and/or Loafs. I'm also an electrical engineer so I guess I'm supposed to know this stuff.

The system is calibrated to work properly with a length of wire AND 3 connections:

The wires ARE two individually different wire TYPES so that a small potential (or voltage) is generated when the end connection is heated. Actual length is not so important as is the number of connections. There are 3 terminals, one terminal at the end that senses the heat (as was noted by others, typically a soldered joint) and 2 other connections, one + and one - at the gauge.

If additional connections are added, they also can generate a small potential (or voltage). The additional potential can throw the calibration of the gauge off. The potential generated can be millivots at best, hence the sensitivity to ADDING an additional length of wire..

p.s., if memory serves me correctly, I was able to run the ?14 foot length? of wire provided by VDO back to the engine compartment of my vans without having to add lengths of wire, or was it the beetle?? umm, that was a long time ago..... so I put on a jacket and went out to measure SyncroBeast and note that 14 foot might be a challange to run to the back.

Ch carl_hansen@ieee.org

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