Date:         Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:01:58 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: TiiCo California Smog Legal!
Comments: To: Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
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What I am getting at is the motor they presented to the C.A.R.B. is a
*DIFFERENT* motor than what they sell in their kit.  The ECU that is
mentioned in the EO *WILL NOT* work with the fuel injection system on the
motor nor even plug into the wire harness that is sold with their motor.
The Audi ECU is a K-Motronic (same as the 2.0L 16V Golf / Jetta motors) and
is not a OBD compliant ECU that you can access with a VAG-COM.

Show me a photo of the Audi ECU listed in the EO installed and functioning
on a motor that has a fuel rail and VAG-COM showing it is Motronic 9.0 and I
will give you $100 cash!

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Kim Brennan
Sent: January 15, 2004 10:25 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: TiiCo California Smog Legal!


As has been discussed on the list before, The Tiico engine is a 2.0L
block with a 1.8L head. When plugged into VagCom the ECU says it is
Motronic 9.0. The kit as I've seen it delivered does NOT have a fuel
rail. However a fuel rail is easily adapted and added to a Tiico. The
kit does not come with braided metal fuel lines.

It isn't impossible that for California a different ECU is shipped. I'd
have to dig into the GoldBrick to see what part number is on the ECU.

In short, Tiico's hp rating, MIGHT be correct, for the head block combo
they've put together. "Brand New!" Well, I guess that depends on your
definition of sex...