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Date:         Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:32:34 -0800
Reply-To:     Zoran Mladen <zmaninco@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Zoran Mladen <zmaninco@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: 85 wbx 1.9 miss at idle
Comments: To: Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@invista.com>
In-Reply-To:  <OF45FF5874.99A0A956-ON85256E20.006204FE@LVS.DUPONT.COM>
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Yup, I hear you. The point of my initial response was two-fold:

1. You failed to mention the idle adj screw. 2. To indicate you may have other trouble than just the idle affecting your ability to pass emissions. I run at 5 BTDC and easily pass both idle and high rev emissions.

I am not disagreeing with your response in regards to how the components of the FI system work.

Z

--- Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@invista.com> wrote: > > Yes, idle speed is initially set by the screw, but > it is controlled by the > idle stabilizer. If you turn the idle speed screw > while the engine is > running, the stabilizer will try its damnedest to > maintain 900 rpm. If you > get too far off, it will start cycling up and down. > This is why you need > to set both the idle speed and the timing with the > stabilizer by-passed. > (Put your timing light on the crank with and without > the stabilizer in > place. You will see the timing jumping around with > it on-line. Without > it, the mark stays put.) My point is, with the > timing advanced to 5BTDC, > the stabilizer can not as effectively control the > idle speed. It is > already advanced 10 degrees from stock. I have seen > this over and over. > The idle wanders high and drifts. I was failed at > my last inspection for > this reason. (They check idle speed as well as > tailpipe emissions.) I knew > my timing was advanced to around 2BTDC. I pulled in > the parking lot, > loosened the distributor clamp and turned the > distributor. The idle > settled down and I went back through for a re-test. > Only ten minutes > later, all passed easily. I checked the timing > when I got home and it was > set a about 2 or 3 ATDC. > The Digijet distributor has a vacuum retard built > into it for emission > purposes. The retarded timing (5ATDC) causes it to > burn hotter and cleaner > at idle. As soon as the throttle is cracked, the > retard goes away. Total > advance is in line with the other engines. > All of this is in the Bentley. > > > Jay > > > > This communication is for use by the intended > recipient and contains > information that may be privileged, confidential or > copyrighted under > applicable law. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby > formally notified that any use, copying or > distribution of this e-mail, > in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Please > notify the sender > by return e-mail and delete this e-mail from your > system. Unless > explicitly and conspicuously designated as > "E-Contract Intended", > this e-mail does not constitute a contract offer, a > contract amendment, > or an acceptance of a contract offer. This e-mail > does not constitute > a consent to the use of sender's contact information > for direct marketing > purposes or for transfers of data to third parties. > > Francais Deutsch Italiano Espanol Portugues > Japanese Chinese Korean > > > http://www.DuPont.com/corp/email_disclaimer.html > >

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