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Date:         Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:22:27 -0800
Reply-To:     "J. Harvey" <jtharvey2@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "J. Harvey" <jtharvey2@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: VW Radio Into Vanagon (Long)
Comments: To: motorbruce@hotmail.com
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With the correct harness you should be able to wire it up assuming you know the Vanagon wiring layout (very simple). I found the following on the web.

P O W E R / O E M C O L O R / S T A N D A R D

Battery / Memory Red Yellow Ignition / Accessory Fuse Box Red Ground Brown Black Power Antenna White Blue Amplifier Turn On N/A Blue / White Illumination Gray / Blue Orange Dimmer N/A Orange / White

S P E A K E R S O E M C O L O R S T A N D A R D Front / Right + Red Gray Front / Right - Brown / White Gray / Black

Front / Left + Blue White Front / Left - Brown / White White / Black

Rear / Right + Red Purple Rear / Right - Brown / White Purple / Black

Rear / Left + Blue Green Rear / Left - Brown / Blue Green / Black

(typical of late 90’s models)

Right Rear Speaker (+) Blue Right Rear Speaker (-) Tan w/ Blue Stripe Right Front Speaker (+) Red Gray Right Front Speaker (-) Tan w/ Red Stripe Left Front Speaker (+) Blue w/ White Stripe Left Front Speaker (-) Tan w/ White Stripe Left Rear Speaker (+) Red w/ Green Stripe Left Rear Speaker (-) Tan w/ Green Stripe VW Amp Turn On Wire - Connect To New Radios Blue Power Antenna Wire +12 Volt Ignition Wire Yellow w/ Red Stripe Power Antenna Turn On Wire - Connect To New Radios Blue Power Antenna Wire Dash Light Dimmer Wire Gray w/ Blue Stripe check for availability +12 Volt Battery Wire Thick Red w/ White Stripe Ground Wire Thick Tan Wire

Harness Color Codes 2 (typical of models prior to late 90’s) NOTE: Before beginning, compare the color of the wires in your vehicle against those of both list.

Right Rear Speaker (+) Blue w/ Green Stripe Right Rear Speaker (-) Brown w/ Red Stripe Right Front Speaker (+) Red w/ White Stripe Right Front Speaker (-) Brown w/ White Stripe Left Front Speaker (+) Black Left Front Speaker (-) Brown w/ Blue Stripe Left Rear Speaker (+) Blue w/ Green Stripe Left Rear Speaker (-) Brown w/ Red Stripe +12 Volt Ignition Wire Brown w/ Red Stripe Dash Light Dimmer Wire Gray w/ Blue Stripe check for availability +12 Volt Battery Wire Thick Red w/ White Stripe Ground Wire Thick Brown Wire

'85 Silver Sunroof '91 GTi 2.0 8v '76 BMW 2002

>From: "Bruce Nadig" <motorbruce@hotmail.com> >To: jtharvey2@hotmail.com, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: RE: VW Radio Into Vanagon (Long) >Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:05:49 -0600 > > >John, > >The face plate is a dead ringer. Perfect. The case is slightly different, >but I think it is basically the same unit. > >There is a great VW salvage yard here in town. I can probably get the right >harness. Can you give me clues as to what the various wires will need to be >connected? Any and all help is greatly appreciated! > >Cheers, >Bruce > > > >>From: "J. Harvey" <jtharvey2@hotmail.com> >>To: motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: RE: VW Radio Into Vanagon (Long) >>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:22:14 -0800 >> >>Does it look like this? >>http://oxrocket.com/ebay/images/radio.jpg >> >>As far I can tell, these units came in Passats, Jettas, and Golfs in the >>mid/late 1990s. It might be a good idea to go to the junkyard and pick up >>the correct harness for $3 and splice it inot your van. >> >>HTH -John >> >> >>'85 Silver Sunroof >>'91 GTi 2.0 8v >>'76 BMW 2002 >> >> >> >> >>>From: Bruce Nadig <motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM> >>>Reply-To: Bruce Nadig <motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM> >>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>Subject: VW Radio Into Vanagon (Long) >>>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:34:36 -0600 >>> >>>Howdy From Texas, >>> >>>Long story, but thanks to VW the stock radio on my '87 GL is now just a >>>large paperweight. That is not the problems I am trying to solve today, >>>although I am still pissed at VW (they can't get me the code for my radio >>>because they didn't stamp the 14 character code into the chassis). Don't >>>reply with suggestions on how to get it going again. I have moved on from >>>that problem. >>> >>>For a replacement I want to keep the VW look. A good friend of mine is >>>the >>>local VW guru and used parts vendor. He has a VW head unit that I want to >>>use in my Vanagon, but so far I haven't been able to get it to work. He >>>swears that all he had to do to get to work in a car was plug it in - on >>>codes, no nothing. >>> >>>This radio has a black face, VW logo, and says "Premium Audio." No other >>>model names are present. This is a AM/FM/Cassette unit with CD changer >>>controls. My friend told me that these are rare units. On the body of the >>>radio there are a number of stickers. Several of them say "Premium." The >>>part number appears in two places and is: 357 035 186H. One sticker that >>>says Premium and has the part number also says "Made In Japan." Elsewhere >>>on >>>the radio there is a sticker that says "Assembled by Matsushita >>>Communications Deutschland GMBH, Germany." Go figure. I don't know what >>>year >>>or model car this unit came from. >>> >>>On the front of the head unit it also has a picture of a red key and >>>says, >>>"Anti Theft." My friend swears that he was able to plug it in to a car >>>and >>>it worked. He swears that he didn't need a code for the unit to work. >>> >>>I checked the fuse on the radio and it is good. I checked to see that the >>>radio is getting power, and it is. >>> >>>On the back there are three receptacles for plugs on the factory harness, >>>just as the original radio had. The lowest of the three is for power, the >>>middle is for the connections to the speakers. The upper receptacle is >>>for >>>the cable that runs to the CD changer. >>> >>>I think the solution to this problem will be getting the proper wires >>>hooked >>>up to the proper pins on the bottom receptacle. The stock socket for the >>>bottom receptacle has wires going to only 3 of the 8 pins. There is a >>>label >>>on the top of the radio with a key to the layout of the pins. The stock >>>socket supplies power to one pin. Another pin is ground. A third is >>>hooked >>>up to the dimmer circuit of the dashboard lights. All other pins are left >>>empty. On the label on top there are, however, symbols assigned to 3 >>>other >>>pins. One looks like a "Y" but the vertical section is the full height of >>>the character. I think this is a signal for a power antenna. One of the >>>remaining pins with an associated symbol simply has a "+". The final pin >>>has >>>a picture of a speaker and a "+." Remember, only 3 of these pins are >>>actually connected to anything on the factory harness (that is to say >>>that >>>the factory harness only has wires going to positions for 3 pins). >>> >>>The new radio also has 8 pins in the bottom receptacle. The power, >>>ground, >>>and dimmer pins are in the same positions. Like the old radio, the new >>>unit >>>also has the "Y" (antenna?) symbol, and the speaker with the "+." There >>>are >>>two additional symbols. Rather than having the second "+" that the first >>>radio had, the newer radio has an "S." Finally, there is a pin labeled >>>"ALM." That is obviously for some sort of alarm function. One pin remains >>>unlabeled on the newer radio. >>> >>>When I told my friend that the newer radio wouldn't work in my van he >>>gave >>>me one suggestion. He seemed to think that this would solve the problem >>>right away. He really knows his VW stuff, especially electrical, so I >>>didn't >>>question him. I just followed his advice. He instructed me to connect the >>>negative terminal and the terminal marked with the "S." He gave me the >>>jumper wires with the correct ends to insert into the factory connectors >>>and >>>everything. >>> >>>Well, to make a long story, this afternoon, I did as he suggested. The >>>new >>>radio still doesn't do anything. I plug it in, turn it on, >>>and....nothing. >>>Nothing on the LCD screen. No mild thump from the speakers when the unit >>>is >>>turned on. Nothing. Any ideas? >>> >>>I'd really like to use this head unit for several reasons (factory look, >>>cassette and CD capability, and the price is right). >>> >>>Any VW radio geniuses out there think you can help me with this problem? >>>If >>>we can get this solved you will have my eternal gratitude! >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Bruce >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Scope out the new MSN Plus Internet Software — optimizes dial-up to the >>>max! >>> http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/plus&ST=1 >> >

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