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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:23:14 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: What's a Tristar Doka Worth?
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Please see ####

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3

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-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Ben T Sent: February 10, 2004 12:09 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: What's a Tristar Doka Worth?

David,

One of the $25K Tristars I mentioned WAS Canadian -- purchased new by the owner via a US dealer. It was fully optioned and even came with extra aluminum Tristar gates. I have seen this Tristar several times.

Although it was very well-optioned. I cannot agree that Canadian Tristars have EVERY OPTION. This is the second Canadian Tristar I am aware of which has 14" alloys. I have seen European versions with 15" alloys and canopies. It also did not come with the roll cage that you see on some European Tristars and Jadgwagens. Those are significant options missing on the Canadian Tristars. I don't want to Rainer on your parade (apologies to Dr. W - couldn't resist), but you are not entirely correct.

#### You are correct - there were some options that were not sold in Canada. I should have phrased it more like these are all "DoKa GLs" that with all options. Every Canadian TriStar that I have seen has had power mirrors and green glass for example.

I believe Jeff was looking for present rather than "future" value. You can scan the European market and find that prices are low there even more so in the US. That is not saying they will remain there. Almost anything will go up in value given enough time under condition it is preserved in the same condition. This is even more true with vehicles. They depreciate to a point then climb back up in price as fewer are left. It's a supply and demand thing. The bottomline is demand for Tristars is down. Prices are down. Today's price is $25K and lower for a Tristar which was imported and titled legally and now on US soil. I believe that is what Jeff was looking for. He is more than welcome to rebut should that not be the case.

I have other reports on Tristars selling for under $10K landed and titled in the US. But then they do not qualify under the "very good condition" category.

#### There was one that left Canada last year for $14.000 Canadian... I would have snapped that one up if I knew about it. It was a case of the owner not knowing what they had as it was advertised for 1 day and sold. I have seen a few "Syncro DoKa" for sale in Europe that were really TriStars - the owners had no clue what they had other than a VW Truck. I just bought a Syncro Hunting Edition last month without really knowing it. No 'exoskeleton' and it was a six seater with a Turbo Diesel, but it is the hunter green in color and it does have the sliding gun holder in the rear plus a factory front push bar... tad bit on the rusty side though...

Just my 2¢, BenT


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