Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 2004 06:56:44 -0600
Reply-To:     tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
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From:         tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
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Subject:      NVC: Re: RoadHaus - Wireless Internet Report
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It is, however, illegal to steal that access.  Nationwide, the percentage of
publicly open and subscriber systems is close to zip when compared to private
ones that are foolishly left wide open.  I may be making the wrong assumption,
but the original post on this was at least hinting about stealing access, since
it mentioned "getting out of there" after using it.

Yes, there are a few isolated spots on the coasts that have freenets, and they
are talking about a coast to coast one, but I've seen very little progress.

tom

tomvanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

On 16 Feb 2004 at 21:19, Gnarlodious wrote:

> There is no law anywhere that says using public access internet is illegal.
> In fact, there is a mass of computer geeks who are committed to making
> wireless internet available as a public service and keeping it out of the
> hands of giant greedy media corporations.
>
> The trend now is subscription WiFi services are foundering while hospitality
> WiFi displaces them, so all those big companies that sunk capital in WiFi
> nets are under attack by grassroots nerds.
>
> Any ISP that allows port 25 traffic can be used to send spam anonymously but
> most now block that port, requiring authenticated logon instead. So the idea
> that AP's are a channel for spammers is outdated and hysterical.
>
> -- Gnarlie

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