Date:         Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:34:29 -0800
Reply-To:     Steven Dodson <steven@EPOCHDESIGN.COM>
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From:         Steven Dodson <steven@EPOCHDESIGN.COM>
Subject:      Re: "green" cars (NVC)
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Sad but true.
It's unfortunate that the oil tyrants are pushing their petrol-hydrogen crap
as the next generation fuel. They're cramming it down the throats of
Congress with their entourage of lobbyists.
This is sad, when there is perfectly clean hydrogen available from
electrolysis of water using energy from the sun. There are very highly
efficient hydrogen generation machines that produce clean hydrogen at
250psi, powered by electricity from solar, wind or whatever. You would still
need to compress it further for efficient storage as you would with any
hydrogen.
Even more sad, when petrol-hydrogen is nearly as costly to produce as the
clean stuff.

I heard that Iceland is going 100% hydrogen (made from water) within 5
years. They are a huge producer of Aluminum products.
The goal is to create an autonomous energy economy and clean up their
industry and environment.
This is a worthy goal!

-Steven Dodson
Kneeland, CA
"Inga" the 87 Syncro (soon to be bio-TDI)



>Date:    Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:33:58 -0500
>From:    Tim Demarest <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
>Subject: Re: "green" cars (NVC)

>...and before anyone spouts off about that wonderful hydrogen technology,
>remember that the current technology for manufacturing hydrogen is to crack
>hydrocarbons... that's right, they still run (indirectly) on crude.

>http://www.engr.psu.edu/h2e/Production.htm