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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:26:28 -0500
Reply-To:     Gary Schreiber <vwgary@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Gary Schreiber <vwgary@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: kappa tweeters in the dash? - speaker grille modification
Comments: To: Ryan Press <ryan@PRESSLAB.US>
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My 85 doka has 6X9's at the bottoms of each front door. The drivers side map pocket needed abit of modification along the bottom edge. I've never had the door panel off so I don't know to what extent the PO had to modify the door sheet metal.

gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Press" <ryan@PRESSLAB.US> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Re: kappa tweeters in the dash? - speaker grille modification

> James V said: > >> I got an idea from someone else (maybe on the list) and I sort of > >> expanded > >> on it. I bought some Infinity Reference 4" speakers to fit into the > >> doors > >> and of course the stock grilles hit the dash and the window crank. > > > > That's a good idea. I was already thinking about bending the grill as you > > suggest to clear the dash. So, you didn't use the plastic surround at > > all, > > right? > > > > I've got power windows, so window crank clearance isn't an issue for me. > > I've also heard that you can bend the crank arm outward slightly, or add a > > spacer. > > > >> I'm not sure if I can set the low pass frequency high enough to > >> compensate > >> for the lack of midrange of the 4" speakers. Anyone have experience > >> with > >> this? I don't want to be able to tell the midrange is emanating from > >> the > >> back seat. I was thinking at worst I could add another 6" or so speaker > >> to the front doors near the bottom. > > > > I'm FAR from an audiophile, but I would think it be better NOT to use the > > 10" in the rear for the mids. I know you already have the 4's (w/ custom > > installation!), but have you considered component speakers? If you're > > thinking about getting additional speakers up front, for a little more $, > > you could get a 5.25" or 6.5" component set up which include crossovers > > and > > replace the 4" w/ the mid-woofer and install the tweeter in the dash/door. > > > > James > > 90 Carat > > Yes I did not use the plastic surround at all, just the metal grille part. > When I was installing the 4" speakers it didn't look like there was much > room for a larger speaker. I guess I could cut the door sheet metal to > install a larger speaker. I have not yet looked, but would it be required > to cut metal to install a speaker near the bottom of the door? There just > seemed to be a lot going on up top. > > I was thinking I could use a passive crossover network and just add > another speaker. The 4" (and coaxial tweeter) would do say 800 hz and up > and the 6.5" would do below that to maybe 100 hz. I would use a fairly > inexpensive 6.5" speaker as it would only operate from 100-1000 hz. So > this would be sort of a 3-way system. > > Yeah, I have a feeling the 10" will not make up for the small 4" speakers; > it will be great for bass though. I have seen pictures of a 6x9" speaker > in the bottom of the front door - although I would want to use a round > speaker. > > Ryan


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