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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:50:34 -0800
Reply-To:     Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
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From:         Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Was!!    now that it's Friday!   Now:  Rant!!
Comments: To: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <32986587.1077910445791.JavaMail.root@skeeter.psp.pas.earthlink.net>
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Bicycle riders suffer from the same problems as motorcycle riders... a few idiots tend to give us all a bad reputation.

99% of bicycle riders are considerate, however, I've lost count of how many times I've seen bike riders zoom through red lights and stop signs, not to mention the putz's who ride 3 across and block the highway.

I won't even get into the stupid things some motorcycle riders do.

Happy Frydaye,

Jeff

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Joseph Fortino Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:34 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Was!! now that it's Friday! Now: Rant!!

I just moved from Calif to Las Vegas, I train and ride on the roads here and have always rode a bike to work and around the places i live, Las Vegas it is diffrent becuase the hit and runs here are HIGH kinda sad the motorist takes its not my fault if somehting happens. get out of my way method!

( I put more miles on my bike then van ) Race for a Team here and train on the roads, group and alone.

Anyway I ride on a sometime 24inch wide area and thats it, cars blast past yell cr%P out the window speed by with the side mirrors almost hitting me. ITS ALL a part of the game they play and traffic planners sometimes don't want to or can't do anything ( hands are tied )?

I will always ride have since i was 5 years old.

Take care. Joe

-----Original Message----- From: David Brodbeck <gull@GULL.US> Sent: Feb 27, 2004 10:55 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Was!! now that it's Friday! Now: Rant!!

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, John Rodgers wrote:

> Here where I live there is a nice commuity park within 1/2 mile of where > I live. The parke has an excellent walking trail. Not big, but big > enough, trail is 0.6 miles long through the woods, down a hill, through > some nice hardwoods, along a stream, then up into the kiddy area with > the kiddy toys, then back to the start. If one walks around the parking > lot, one adds 0.1 mile. Five laps yields 2.8 miles, Do two more laps on > the parking lot and you have 3 miles. I do this almost every day. Three > miles. It makes me feel good, keeps my circulation up, lowers my blood > pressure. It is a safe walk, no vehicular traffic. But guess what? I > have to drive the half mile to get there.

Boy, does that sound familiar. There are some lovely bike trails in my area, within a few miles of my apartment. How do I get to them? Well, I throw my bike on the roof rack and *drive* to one of the trails. Absurd, but it's the only safe way to do it.

David Brodbeck, N8SRE '82 Volkswagen Diesel Westfalia '86 Volvo 240DL wagon


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