Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:26:47 -0800
Reply-To:     Ryan Press <ryan@PRESSLAB.US>
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From:         Ryan Press <ryan@PRESSLAB.US>
Subject:      Re: He's Alive, He's Alive, HE'S ALIVE!
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Warren.K.Lail-1 said:
> Flash!!
>
> At precisely 3:37 pm, Central Standard Time,
> Billy Bones roared back to life!  He's Alive!  And
> what was amazing is that as soon as fuel found its
> way through all that new fuel line, he belched,
> wheezed, farted, and then just ran.  I let him idle
> for 30 minutes, and then replaced the oil and filter
> (to get those new filings out of there!)
>
> I've still got to refill my tranny, so Billy's not
> out of dry dock just yet, but tomorrow!  Maybe.
>
>
> I need to set the timing, but I can't figure it out
> from Bentley.  This is an 88 2.1 WBX with manual
> tranny. What's the best way to set the timing
> (I even went out and bought a timing light!).
>
> When ole Billy started up, well if I had known
> how to do a back-flip in my driveway I think I
> would have just done it.
>
> Thanks for everyone's kind words of support!
>
> Warren Lail
> 88 Westy "Billy Bones"
> 87 GL


Warren,

I've not found a really good way to set the timing either.  What I did is
set the maximum advance timing to 40 deg with everything connected.

The 40 deg is the 35 deg BTDC + the Bentley spec of 5 deg BTDC.

I have one of those advance timing guns, I set it to 40 deg and then
adjust the distributor until the center of the TDC flat (the sort of U
shaped one, not the V notch) on the crank pulley lines up with the part in
the crank case.  I rev the engine before I check the timing, at a certain
point (maybe 4000 rpm) the timing advances no more and I look at the TDC
flat.  You have to sort of rev the engine up to get it to the max advance.

Here is the ignition map (not my web site):
<http://www.obsolyte.com/vanagon/VanagonProTraining/DigiFant/009.jpg>

VW timing procedure:
<http://www.obsolyte.com/vanagon/VanagonProTraining/DigiFant/037.jpg>

It has good power like this and just passed CA smog.

If I try to set it at idle it bounces around too much to get a good
reading - if you look at the advance curve you will see why.  If I set it
per Bentley with the temp 2 sensor unplugged it runs like a dog; too
retarded.

Ryan