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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:05:47 -0500
Reply-To:     Tom Miller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tom Miller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
Subject:      Re: gas prices..  and what they'll be this summer
Comments: To: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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Hydrogen technology is the only practical way to get the crude oil whores off our backs. Anything else just costs more than paying $3 for a gallon of gas. Look at hybrid cars. Who wants to pay $30,000 for a 4 passenger compact car with two drive trains to maintain. You save about $1500 in gas over 5 years but you cannot get your family of 5 in the thing, let alone your luggage for a weekend trip to grandma's house! At least with a Jetta diesel, you get 50 MPG and have room for 5 and a large trunk at 2/3rds the cost and no performance penalty. I have owned Jetta Diesels since 1985 and a Rabbit diesel before that with 300,000 miles on the odometer when I sold it to my friend. It is still in service. My 91 Jetta ECOdiesel needs some work and I am thinking of installing an 86 TD I have waiting for a car to put it in. I'll take 45-50 MPG with that car any day over what is available new today from any dealer, including VW. The new Jetta's since 93-on are smaller cars. I guess they did that to make the Passat look bigger? The price tag certainly is. At least I can make biodiesel if prices get real crazy. My 2 cents. TEMiller

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:46 PM Subject: Re: gas prices.. and what they'll be this summer

> Lets at least use some judgement here. > We'll all boycott Shell Oil, a Dutch Company so fewer Americans are put out > of work. > > Stan Wilder > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of JordanVw@AOL.COM > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:04 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: gas prices.. and what they'll be this summer > > > i usually dont fwd stuff i get in mass mailings to the list, but i thought > this one was interesting.. as for vanagon content - my vanagon runs on > gas :< > ) > > anyway, here it be.. > > ------------------------fwd-------------------------- > > > Subject: Gasoline prices > this may work! > I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer. Want > gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united > action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: > This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain > day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies > > just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" > ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us > > than it was a problem for them. > BUT,whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can > really > work. > Please read it and join with us .By now you're probably thinking > gasoline > priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for > regular unleaded in my town Now that the oil companies and the OPEC > nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is > > CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them > that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of > gasoline > going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way > we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in > the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT > hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just > stop > buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act > together to force a price war. Here's the idea: For the rest of this > year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which > now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they > will > be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the > other > companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to > reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. >


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