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Date:         Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:34:17 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: second gas tank in their vanagon? - Design Q
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We're going to be making some tanks later this spring from aluminium. (See http://www.syncro.ca/TriStar ) Right now I am in the R+D stage of the process and I have a few card board mock ups here at the moment. For me these tanks are too important to get wrong! :)

It will occupy the space between the outer and inner frame, it will have the correct VDO fuel gauge sender, it will have an optional coolant driven heat exchanger so that you can bring you fuel up close to coolant temperature (good for the veggie-oil guys like me), it will hold about 60 to 70L of fuel.

The only concern that I have is these are going to be long narrow tanks. Does anyone have ideas on how to make a setup where if you are on the last 10% of the fuel on the tank and you go down a steep hill that you won't run out of fuel due to the pickup being 'up hill'? I was thinking of a small 1L aux tank that will act as a 'capacitor' of sorts where it is situated between the main 70L tank and the engine. It has a one way valve on it so when you are sucking air the engine still takes fuel from the bottom of this mini tank - chances of going down or up hill for more than 1L worth of fuel is remote, but, the question is, how to auto-bleed the air from this when it does start seeing fuel again. The only way I can see to do this is to have the mini tank lower than the tank that you are draining from with a vent coming out of the top of the mini tank that leads back to the main tank. When you are back on the level again this design would make it fill up again as the air would have a way out and back into the main tank.

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3

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-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of John Carpenter Sent: February 29, 2004 8:38 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: second gas tank in their vanagon?

Hi All, There was a group purchase, about three years ago, for the extra saddle bag gas tank, that fit under the passenger side sliding door area. The purchase was put together by Bill Kasper, I believe? Does anyone have any saved Pic's of this tank? My address for the tank, is no longer viable. JC...

I realize this isn't strictly on the subaru topic, but has any one installed a second gas tank in their vanagon? I've heard rumor of south african ones... How are they filled and where are they? I'm also interested in any other good ideas. Hahn Rossman Alki Foundry LLC 3600 East Marginal Way South #11 Seattle Wa 98134-1130


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