Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:54:57 -0800
Reply-To: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
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From: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
Subject: Re: Burning Man Tickets
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I understand your frustration and opinion. I've been to BM for many years
and have seen the changes as well. BM has experienced major growing pains.
And I agree that the weekend of the burn is probably the least desirable
days to be there. But every year I meet great people and make new friends
that I almost always see the next year. I don't let the idiots that are
there to oogle or impress bother me, I find far worse on the highways every
day.
As for my kids, there are 52 weekends, and weeks, in a year and I don't feel
bad at all about spending one away with my mates in the desert acting like a
fool. My kids live with me, so the last week of August isn't the only time
I get to spend with them.
As with you, this is only my opinion. The good outweighs the bad. I'll
keep going, until I can't, but then I'll go again...
Peace and Cheers,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Aristotle Sagan [mailto:killer_jupiter@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:32 PM
To: jeff@TSSGI.COM
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Burning Man Tickets
I just expressed my opinion. I never sat in my camp (except when we all did)
and was never bored.
Let me tell you about my Burning Man...
I camped with about 45-50 people, all nudists. 3/4 of them women. Nice
artistic, intelligent women. We had an unofficial theme camp every year. The
first year we were the Ho' Scouts of Nevada, the second year, we were the
Cal-Tramps. A bright orange theme, if you can imagine. We did a ton of
stuff, including blocking off the main thoroughfair and diverting hundreds
of people onto the dance floor of a sister camp (the big orange cube) on the
other side of the city. One of the guys in the camp made 'Ping' a Vanagon
based submarine art car (RVC). I wandered the city in various stages of
undress, had my body painted, wandered into a couple of dozen different
camps, talked to people, picked up (or tried to pick up women) of various
persuasions, met lots of characters. Spent 6 or 7 days each time I was
there, became a weeklong vegitarian. I liked and still like the people I
camped with.
But the whole thing left me totally disillusioned after the second year. I
still have friends that go and they tell me, it's getting worse. Lots of
little Fascists running their own power trip. The size increase the second
year, from 18,000 to 24,000 was a real turnoff. The idiots coming up for the
weekend only to watch the burn, doing nothing but drinking and ogling
chicks, sorry, not my scene any more.
I have more fun spending that weekend with my daughters who thought dad
going up to the desert was neat and a little weird. They thought dad coming
home with pink painted toenails was a gas. But they are more important then
some silly pseudo-pagan ritual up in the Black Rock Desert.
Anytme I want the good parts of the playa, I always have my van and enough
camping gear to do it right, without the hassles of the power trips of BRC.
So, have a great time Jeff. I would yawn again, but I did it once this year
already.
tim in san jose
>From: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
>Reply-To: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Burning Man Tickets
>Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:06:45 -0800
>
>I must, respectfully, disagree. BM is what you make of it. I've seen many
>people who go to BM, sit in their camps and complain how bored they are.
>I've seen people wander about a little and not participate, only to hear
>them say it was okay.
>
>IMHO:
>
> - BM "IS" an audience participation event.
>
> - BM "IS" a social event (even a devoutly antisocial grump such as myself
>has been known chat a bit).
>
>
>I truly enjoy my yearly trip to Black Rock City and begin getting excited
>about it when the first tickets go on sale. This year I'm finally building
>my first "art car", a topless Vanagon with some sort of lifeguard chair
>about 8' in the air. Oh yeah, it'll probably have bar stools along the
>sides and a place for, what else... a bar and bartender.
>
>
>BTW: I made a mistake about ticket going on sale last night at midnight
>(stupid leap year). They actually go on sale tonight at midnight.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
>Of Aristotle Sagan
>Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:03 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Burning Man Tickets
>
>
>Permit me to yawn.
>
>*Yawn*
>
>Thanks, I feel better now,
>
>tim in san jose
>
>brc 1999, 2000, never again.
>
>
>
>
> >From: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
> >Reply-To: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@TSSGI.COM>
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >Subject: Burning Man Tickets
> >Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:09:03 -0800
> >
> >Hey all, just a shout out to anyone who's planning on attending Burning
>Man
> >this year... tickets go on sale tonight at midnight, Pacific time. The
> >first round of tickets are $165 and are limited to the first 7,000
>buyers.
> >
> >http://tickets.burningman.com/info.php?sid=&e=
> >
> >Come one, come all and see the debut of this years Playagon (Playa +
> >Vanagon) art car. It's sure to be a bizarre creation...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jeff
>
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