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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:35:42 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Coolant priming question
Comments: To: vanagon <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
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Here is my procedure again. Do not warm up the engine. A warm engine makes the coolant turn to vapor with the coolant system open. This makes bleeding difficult. Also, never add coolant to a hot running engine. Helps make warped heads. Also, there is no need to raise the front. In fact it makes things harder as you have to raise the coolant that much further to bleed the system. Try this procedure.

1) Engine should be dead cold. If not successful bleeding in 10 minutes, Walk away, have lunch, beer etc, come back later.

2) Prepare coolant supply, have ready. Pre-mixing will make it easier to keep proper ratio.

3) Open thermostat bypass valve and valves to both heater cores.

4) Fill main reservoir as much as possible. Allow time for as much coolant to fill into engine as possible.

5) Start engine. Use something to hold engine speed around 2,000 to 2,500 rpm.

6) Open radiator bleeder (partner will help).

7) Continue to fill cooling system while air is being expelled from bleeder and reservoir.

8) When both flow water steadily, close radiator bleeder, then reinstall cooling pressure cap, (It was tested and know to be good?). You can also close the bypass now.

9) Allow engine to return to normal idle speed.

10) Return heater valves to where you want them. Test system. Make sure radiator fan works. Don't forget to top off the expansion tank behind the license plate. Any residual air will eventually work its way out. If not, than you a problem.

11) After van is operated for a while, test coolant concentration to make certain you have the proper mixture, (50-70%).

It does work! Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of vanagon Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:04 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Coolant priming question

Okay, I have replaced the coolant in my 85 Vanagon several times and have tried to do it exactly as the Bentley book prescribes. It seems somewhat difficult and can get messy.

I am about to do this on my 87 Syncro shortly.

Here's the question: Has anybody found an easier way to do this? Purging all the air out easily?

I have a couple ideas but do not know if they would work.

Anybody want to discuss this?

By the way, when I first purchased my 85 several years ago, I made the mistake of removing the rear heater, I did clamp the hoses but likely still got some small air in the system and thought the overflow would purge it off. I later blew one of the small hoses behind the crank pulley and lost cooling on the way up to Tahoe with my girl. I believe the Vanagon is especially sensitive to any air in the cooling system and a bugger to purge. Very different than my Ford Ranger.

Thanks!

Doug


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