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Date:         Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:22:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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From:         Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sedona - Hiking, Biking and Camping
Comments: To: Phil Walker <phil.walker@BROOKS.COM>
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Phil,

This is from the NPS web site.

Visitor services and facilities inside the national park on the NORTH RIM are only open from mid-May to mid-October. Weather permitting, the North Rim is open for day use only following the close of facilities in mid-October. During this time there are no services or overnight facilities available inside the park. The road from Jacob Lake to the North Rim (Highway 67) is subject to closure with little or no notice during this interval and then remains closed until mid-May. For the 2004 season, visitor services and facilities inside the national park on the North Rim will be open from May 10 - October 14, 2004.

I've been up there when the NR is closed, or more accurately, not open) and it's a pretty neat experience. There's almost no one around. Consequently, there are no services. Camping in the campground is free (no one to take your money), and no help if you have a problem. The road from Jacob Lake to NR may or may not be open, depending on residual snow. It hasn't snowed in a while, but it doesn't clear real fast up there either. You can call the park for the most current info:

By Phone Visitor Information 928-638-7888

Camping up there over 8000 feet in the off-season can be rather chilly - something to consider with a little one.

One of my favorite out-or-the-way sites for camping is on the loop that goes through Wupatki NM and Sunset Crater NM. This is about 20 - 30 miles north of Flagstaff, AZ on US 89(A?). If you look carefully at the map, you'll see that after you leave NP land and before you enter Indian land, there's a small area of BLM land. There is a small dirt road that heads east off the park's loop road. You'll be at around 6000 ft, and be able to sleep quite comfortably. Just get off road a little bit and tuck in behind a pinon pine tree. You may have some company, but most folks are just like us - trying to get away from folks not like us. ;-)

Give me a call when you're in the Phoenix area - 602-944-4543.

Karl Wolz

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Phil Walker > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:33 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Sedona - Hiking, Biking and Camping > > We are planning on seeing the North Rim of the GC and then spending a few > days in (or near) Sedona AZ next week (Leaving April 4). We've driven > through before, but never spent any time. Does anyone have any > recommendations of places to hike, camp, and bike for a few days? We're not > set on Sedona either (we eventually need to get to Mesa to see some > relatives) so I'd be up for any recommendations of things to see in > Northern to mid AZ. We have a new baby (7 months) so any hikes need to be > reasonable enough that Dad (me) can negotiate with Sage on my back in a > pack. Any recommendations of cave dwellings, rock art, etc. Would be much > appreciated. Conventional (hookup) campgrounds are ok, but we prefer cool > places in the bush to set up camp and look at the stars. These places are > always hard to find when just rolling into an area. Experience is always > helpful. > > This will be the first long (more than 3 days) camping with the new kiddo. > Any other kid tips would be appreciated. We think we have a game plan for > feeding, cleaning, but any been there/done that would be great. Thanks, > > -Phil > 89 Westy > SLC, UT


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