Date:         Sat, 3 Apr 2004 10:01:24 -0900
Reply-To:     Jeff Hartman <jeffhartman11@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jeff Hartman <jeffhartman11@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 86 Vanagon unstable idle (grounds)
Comments: To: collum@verizon.net
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I started going through the grounds on on my 86 vanagon last night.  There
are sooo many of them.  One connecting to the top of the engine, is a
braided copper affair.  It has some fraying, but the contact points are all
clean, under the hex head cap screws and metal surfaces.  Do I need to
replace the braided copper ground?

Also, is there a good list of all the ground locations for our vanagons
somewhere?
Thanks, Jeff Hartman
86 Vanagon 2.1
Juneau, Alaska


>From: "Mike Collum" <collum@verizon.net>
>To: "Jeff Hartman" <jeffhartman11@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re:      86 Vanagon unstable idle
>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:49:51 -0500
>
>Jeff,
>
>The fact that it changes with electrical load leads me to think it could be
>a problem with electrically dirty connectors and/or grounds.  It can be
>surprising how a bad ground at one end of the machine can effect equipment
>at the other end, too.
>
>Mike
>Houlton, Maine
>'84 GL 7 pass
>'85 GL Westy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Hartman" <jeffhartman11@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:28 PM
>Subject: 86 Vanagon unstable idle
>
>
> > Hi, I have been struggling with an unstable idle. It is very cyclic and
>the
> > cycles and frequency increase with an electric load (fans etc.)  With
>the
>O2
> > sensor and temp sensor replaced, and other tuneup adjustments made, the
>VW
> > dealership claims I need a mass airflow sensor.  This was determined
>without
> > any computer diagnostics.  In fact the dealer's service department says
>that
> > their new computer testing equipment no longer can test our obsolete
> > Vanagons.
> >
> > I don't have a lot of faith in them, so do you have any ideas of whether
> > they are right and what I should test next?  I made a cursory review of
>the
> > archives over a couple of recent years, without finding this exact
>problem
> > described.
> > Thanks, Jeff Hartman
> > Juneau, Alaska
> > 86 2.1 Vanagon
> >
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