Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:10:36 -0400
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From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject: Re: State of the Art in Engine Swaps is....?
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Stan...etal,
MY complete engine swap cost less than $1000.00.
Eric
Stan Wilder wrote:
>If you're going to do an engine swap you need to love your Vanagon somewhere
>between $3000.00 and $10,000 worth.
>The least expensive is a half life Subaru engine conversion that normally
>runs $3000.00 by the time it's completed.
>I don't know anything about Tiico conversions but I think the complete setup
>can be $7500.00
>If you've got a 5000 pound + Westy you can consider that it weighs as much
>as a 2004 Full Sized Extended Cab 3/4 Ton Dodge Pickup truck with around 260
>HP.
>Your power isn't going to impress anybody but you.
>
>Stan Wilder
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
>Of David Brodbeck
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:26 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: State of the Art in Engine Swaps is....?
>
>
>On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, tomdurkin wrote:
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>>The Volvo B-230 is exactly what you say, and it can easily
>>last 400,000 miles or more with routine maintainance. I
>>believe the other options mentioned in this thread cannot
>>make that claim. I would be very interested in more
>>information about this conversion, I can see a intercooled
>>B-230FT with 180 hp moving a Vanagon up hill very nicely.
>>
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>Unfortunately I don't have more information about it; I just know that
>Kennedy Engineering makes (or used to make?) an adapter plate. You'd be
>on your own for engine mounts, but at least the Volvo mount system is
>pretty simple. You could probably fab something up using carrier bars,
>similar to what a VW diesel Vanagon uses. Exhaust shouldn't be too big a
>challenge, just bend some pipe to route from the Volvo manifold around to
>a single muffler in the rear, like the diesels use. If you can make the
>muffler mounts part of the engine mounts, as VW did for the diesel, or
>mount them to the engine block, you avoid having to use any flex pipes.
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>I have no idea if the engine would fit under the decklid.
>
>I think the sole advantage a B230 would have over a VW inline 4 is low end
>grunt. It's the torquiest I-4 I've driven. It reminds me a lot of a
>4-cyl boxer engine that way. When you're moving a heavy van, having a
>torque peak at relatively low RPM is important.
>
>
>David Brodbeck, N8SRE
>'82 Volkswagen Diesel Westfalia
>'86 Volvo 240DL wagon
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