Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 02:47:57 -0700
Reply-To: Tobin Copley <tcopley@SFU.CA>
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From: Tobin Copley <tcopley@SFU.CA>
Subject: Re: part needed: diesel tranny
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I'm skeptical about that last assertion. As a regular (summertime)
driver of my diesel westy with a stock diesel transmission and stock
1.6L NA motor (48 HP on a good day), I can't imagine wanting any taller
gearing than what the stock transmission provides. I live in a
mountainous region, where when I'm loaded in camping trim even a mild
uphill grade knocks me out of 4th gear down to 37 mph in 3rd, and on
the steeper grades (say, over 9% or 10%) down to 22 mph in 2nd. If I
want to go faster than 60 mph downhill, I put the clutch in. :-)
Or maybe I'm missing something. *How* (or perhaps under what
conditions?) is the aircooled tranny better than the diesel
transmission for the motor the diesel tranny was designed for? *Maybe*
if I lived someplace flat, windless, and drove empty all the time I
could understand upping the gearing a bit, but from where I sit, it
doesn't look like an attractive option. Can you shed some light on
this?
T.
On Apr 16, 2004, at 2:19 AM, Jonathan Farrugia wrote:
> the exchange in the archives is not about using the air cooled
> transmission for engine swaps or upgrades, although that does exist.
> it
> is about using a air cooled transmission coupled to a 1.6 normally
> aspirated diesel engine. the air cooled transmission can
> satisfactorily
> be used as a direct replacement for the original diesel transmission.
> some in the debate even say it is better suited to the diesel engine
> (1.6
> normally aspirated) than the original diesel transmission.
>
> jonathan
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Tobin Copley wrote:
>
>> Thanks for mentioning the option, but in my case (heh) at least, I
>> need
>> the lower gearing the stock diesel tranny offers. For folks who
>> upgrade a diesel vehicle to a more powerful diesel engine (or a gas
>> I-4), I've heard that swapping in an air-cooled transmission (and
>> cutting down in input shaft to fit) works well. My little stock
>> diesel
>> mill couldn't push the air-cooled's taller gears.
>>
>> Call me an odd bird, but the stock 48HP 1.6L NA diesel with the lower
>> diesel gearing is just fine for pushing my westy. Slowly. Maybe when
>> the kids are older (and heavier!) I'll think of upgrading to a 1.9,
>> 1.9TD, or mechanical-pump TDI...
>>
>> T.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2004, at 11:27 PM, Jonathan Farrugia wrote:
>>
>>> if the two of you can't come up with a diesel transmission you can
>>> always
>>> put a air cooled transmission in. check the archives for the debate
>>> and
>>> testimonials. the pro postings were made by a poster called
>>> notajeep i
>>> think. it all took place only a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>> jonathan
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Tobin Copley wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2004, at 5:19 PM, mike johnson wrote:
>>>>> anyone have a diesel tranny they would be willing to part with for
>>>>> a
>>>>> reasonable amount???????
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>> San Diego Ca (San Diegian) :)
>>>>
>>>> Oooh. Make that TWO people on the prowl. I had a used diesel
>>>> tranny
>>>> lined up to replace the (shot) one currently in my westy, but closer
>>>> inspection pre-shipping showed lotsa metal shavings... So I'm back
>>>> to
>>>> looking. I'm in Vancouver BC but have relatives in Seattle I could
>>>> ship to. And I may be heading down to the Puyallup spring meet
>>>> later
>>>> this month (in my creepily reliable H*nda--feh! ptooie!)
>>>>
>>>> Or considering the option of getting my tranny rebuilt. <sigh>.
>>>>
>>>> T.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> Tobin Copley Vancouver, BC, Canada 49deg 23'N-123deg
>>>> 19'W
>>>>
>>>> '82 Westfalia 1.6L NA diesel ("Stinky")
>>>> '97 son Russell =============
>>>> '99 daughter Margaret /_| |_L| |__|:| clatter
>>>> SPEED KILLS! [. = .|
>>>> clatter!
>>>> Drive a Vanagon diesel ~-()-==----()-~ ~ ~
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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