Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:21:30 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: NVC Virus Complaints
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Eric, I started getting blasted with viruses and worms as well, about
two weeks or so ago. I got rid of my AVG (Grissoft) Antivirus and added
Norton. I added Spy-Bot, then ran them both. Cleaned my machine of all
adware files, cookies, and Norton picked up and identified 14 different
viruses, worms, and trojans, and I got rid of those. I have had only one
virus since then, and Norton caught it.
I still have two threats onb my machine. One is a Zipped file that has a
trojan in it. I haven't opened it yet, but will do so when I need the
file. I know what the trojan is all about now and know how to deal with
it, so I don't feel threatened. The other is a spyware file that I have
been unable to remove. I am still working on it. I have even gone into
the registry and deleted it from the registry listing, but the damn
thing is still there. It is a file that attaches as part of that piece
of sh*t Microsoft Explorer. Probably 8 out of the 14 files that I
deleted were spyware associated with Explorer.
I never use Explorer except on a "have to" basis where some websites and
some servers won't deliver to me unless I use Explorer. I have always
even from the old days Used Netscape, but since AOL has come into
possession of Netscape, it has become a piece of advertising crap. Just
like AOL's other browser software.
I have recently dumped Netscape and now use Mozilla, both the browser
and the e-mail cliet program. Popups and other problems have simply
disappeared.
The thing that finally prompted me to go to Mozilla was the fact that
Netscape has gotten unstable and not long ago it crashed, taking all my
account info with it. Lost my address book, important e-mails I had
saved, all my bookmarks. I didn't have a backup. There is no convenient
way to back up Netscape that I know of. Or any other browser/e-mail
program for that matter .... at least in my experience. BUT
.................. Mozilla provides a backup program with the browser
and the e-mail client program that allows you to conveniently back up
the whole thing periodically. I now do the backup once a week. It is
very easy with the Mozilla backup program.
By the way, to be most effective in worm and virus hunting, at least if
you are running XP, is to turn the restore point feature off, adn
"unhide" all hidden files, including system files. Then run your
anti-virus and anti spy-ware programs. Delete all the viruses, worms,
spyware and cookies necessary, then reset everything.
BTW, that file I cannot get rid of is called "bd.dll". So far I have not
been able to crack it, but I will. I'll not have someone putting a
program on my computer without me knowing, and then set it so I cannot
remove it. In a sense that is a kind of rape!!! It's sort of like "I'm
gonna do you and you can't do anything about it!!"
Really pees me off!!! I will get it off there even if I have to reformat
my hard drive.
BTW, I have learned that Trojans are more often spyware than anything
else, and they are usually set to "turn on" when you start a program
.... they are added to the start program in the software, and sometimes
even added to the start program in Windows. Most of the time they are
harmless to the computer -- most of the time, but not always. They
primarily track your actions. And I hate snoopers so I go after these
things aggressively and with diligence.
Good Luck with your worm and virus killing expedition.
Eric Zeno wrote:
> I'm getting at least a dozen viruses or worm files a day.
> Is there any place to complain to, that might be able
> to do something about this.
>
> Thanks Eric
>
